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Elego and me for one<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">would need new server setup, the actual repository migration (which<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">should preserve as much information as possible), setup of repository<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">replication to two machines, integration of SVN into the regression<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">test framework, setup of SVN clients, update / rewrite of all the<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">repository access information and CM guidelines, and a migration<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">strategy for all the existing HTTP links in search engines etc.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">If I should make an estimation for this project in a commercial<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">environment, I'd say it will take 3-6 months and cost a client<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">between 40,000 and 80,000 Euros (that's currently 60,000 to 120,000$).<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">I'd rather invest these efforts for other goals. If other CM3 users<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">think it is worthwhile to do, they should just do it; after all, this<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">is an open source project.<br></blockquote><br>If such a group does reorganise the Modula 3 sources into a new revision <br>control system, though, I'd strongly advise them to look into a <br>distributed one.<br><br>-- hendrik<br></div></blockquote></div><br></body></html>