<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div apple-content-edited="true"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; 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widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><div>Some suggested flags for gcc configure to avoid full bootstrap:</div><div><br></div><div>--enable-languages=m3cg</div><div>--disable-multilib</div><div>--enable-stage1-languages=m3cg</div><div>--disable-bootstrap</div><div><br></div><div>I haven't tried any of these, but some combination in m3cc/src/m3makefile should have the intended effect.</div></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></div></span> </div><br><div><html>On Apr 17, 2008, at 9:00 AM, Jay wrote:</html><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; "><div class="hmmessage" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; ">I don't think so. I don't think so. I don't think so. :)<br>I don't think we bootstrapped. I don't think there's much reason. I don't think it should even be an option.<br>But I don't know.<br>It should be faster.<br><br>I think a reason to bootstrap would be if the system's C compiler can't compile gcc.<br>That is, if it isn't gcc, or is an old gcc. Or maybe even that is false -- not sure what the requirements to build gcc are.<br>Given that usually it is gcc and recent, seems like little reason.<br>Maybe "SOLsun" would do it, for example.<br>??????<br><br>I'm still having trouble just making an x86 hosted x86 targeted build on AMD64, but I'm close.<br>Something like<br>CC="gcc -m32 -Xassembler --32" configure --target=i686-pc-linux-gnu --build=i686-pc-linux-gnu --host=i686-pc-linux-gnu<br>though I'm sure that's overkill to specify three architectures. I have to read the explanation of which is which.<br>When there are only two, host and target make sense, is "build" the current one that is building the compiler, host is where it will run, target is what it will produce? I guess that's reasonable. So build could always be sniffed automatically and it might as well be native -- this compiler already must exist, or it is stage1 if bootstrapping from other than gcc. ? I guess stage1 is build a build-hosted host-targeted compiler, stage2 is host-hosted, target-targeted, what you actually want, stage3 is the same, and compare? Something like that? I should read up.. this doesn't seem like enough passes when building a cross-compiler, or just you have skip the "compare" when building a cross compiler?<br><br>Later..<br> - Jay<br><br>> Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 14:25:25 +0200<br>> From:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:wagner@elegosoft.com">wagner@elegosoft.com</a><br>> To:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:m3devel@elegosoft.com">m3devel@elegosoft.com</a><br>> Subject: Re: [M3devel] new gcc build time<br>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> Quoting Jay <<a href="mailto:jayk123@hotmail.com">jayk123@hotmail.com</a>>:<br>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> > I see this too.<br>> > I've been experimenting..<br>> > --disable-bootstrap?<br>> > I don't know yet.<br>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> I don't think we have ever done a full gcc bootstrap for cm3cg,<br>> have we? Is there any reason to do that now?<br>> If not, complete bootstrapping of gcc should be disabled again.<br>> Or we should make it an option depending on a variable setting<br>> like -DCOMPLETE_GCC_BOOTSTRAP or similar.<br>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> Any other opinions?<br>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> Olaf<br>> --<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> Olaf Wagner -- elego Software Solutions GmbH<br>> Gustav-Meyer-Allee 25 / Gebäude 12, 13355 Berlin, Germany<br>> phone: +49 30 23 45 86 96 mobile: +49 177 2345 869 fax: +49 30 23 45 86 95<br>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://www.elegosoft.com">http://www.elegosoft.com</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>| Geschäftsführer: Olaf Wagner | Sitz: Berlin<br>> Handelregister: Amtsgericht Charlottenburg HRB 77719 | USt-IdNr: DE163214194<br>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br></div></span></blockquote></div><br></body></html>