<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div>I can definitely vouch for ALPHA_OSF having worked as recently as two years ago, but without the pthreads native threading system. That port should have been easy enough I suspect.</div><div apple-content-edited="true"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; 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font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><div><br></div></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></div></span></div><div><div>On Oct 1, 2008, at 7:41 AM, Jay wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; "><div class="hmmessage" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; ">No -- you would know best about AMD64_DARWIN.<br>I'm sure ALPHA_OSF used to work, but it's been so long, I don't think it counts.<br> <br>I'm being lazy.<br> <br>file AMD64_DARWIN/cm3cg<br> => fat binary? I doubt it.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br> => with ppc, i386, amd64? (doubt it)<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br> => or just ppc, i386? (doubt it)<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br> => or just i386? This is I "suspect". <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br> => or just AMD64. This would be somewhat interesting.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></div></span></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I believe that is how I configured it.</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; "><div class="hmmessage" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; ">I'm pretty sure cm3cg is always 32bit "these days".</div></span></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Nope, cm3cg on AMD64_DARWIN is 64-bit.</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; "><div class="hmmessage" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; ">I've tried SPARC64_OPENBSD and AMD64_LINUX and they both failed in the same way.<br>This was a nice thing to find, that the problem is portable to multiple?all 64 bit hosts.<br> <br>I'm ASSUMING but trying to confirm that AMD64_DARWIN has the same problem.</div></span></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Don't thinks so.</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; "><div class="hmmessage" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; ">Anyway, I should really get to debugging this soon.<br> <br>It's a bit odd because gcc itself doesn't have this bug and I reviewed a lot of the code and it was ok. I'm just going to have to step through it in parallel on 32bit and 64bit hosts and find where they diverge. A LOT was identical, like the files output by cm3 into cm3cg were identical.</div></span></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Yes, the intermediate code should be identical. Any such problems would be with cm3cg.</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; "><div class="hmmessage" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; ">I was close a few months ago but sloughed off.</div></span></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Good luck.</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; "><div class="hmmessage" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; "><br> <br> - Jay<br><br><br>> From:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:hosking@cs.purdue.edu">hosking@cs.purdue.edu</a><br>> To:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:jay.krell@cornell.edu">jay.krell@cornell.edu</a><br>> Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 10:16:41 +0100<br>> CC:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:m3devel@elegosoft.com">m3devel@elegosoft.com</a><br>> Subject: Re: [M3devel] AMD-64 binaries?<br>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> 64-bit hosted tools? Do you mean only for Linux? I don't quite<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> understand what you are saying.<br>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> On Sep 30, 2008, at 9:36 AM, Jay wrote:<br>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> ><br>> > I'm getting back to this now.<br>> > I didn't realize it till this weekend, but that archive is<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> > "relatively incompatible".<br>> > In particular it has 32bit hosted tools, and won't run on Debian<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> > 4.0r4 / AMD64.<br>> > Something about glibc 2.4, when all I see on my system is 2.3.<br>> > I'll see what I can do.<br>> > Probably just rebuild cm3cg.<br>> > I think it was built on Fedora, but could have been Ubuntu or<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> > OpenSuse.<br>> > Probably just that Debian stable lags the others.<br>> ><br>> > The main problem to debug is why 64bit hosted tools "never" work.<br>> > (Right?)<br>> ><br>> ><br>> > Stay tuned for a bunch more ports "soon", I've got a bunch more<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> > hardware,<br>> > that runs Linux and others (Solaris, AIX, Irix).. :)<br>> ><br>> > I'll be able to debug the high dpi gui problems on a friend's laptop<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> > soon too.<br>> > Send me a repro. I expect it is trivial -- like anything with a<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> > scrollbar.<br>> > I can try formsedit, etc.<br>> ><br>> ><br>> > - Jay<br>> ><br>> ><br>> >> Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 07:58:04 +0200<br>> >> From:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:wagner@elegosoft.com">wagner@elegosoft.com</a><br>> >> To:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:m3devel@elegosoft.com">m3devel@elegosoft.com</a><br>> >> Subject: Re: [M3devel] AMD-64 binaries?<br>> >><br>> >> Quoting "Rodney M. Bates" :<br>> >><br>> >>> Are there binaries for AMD-64 around that can be used<br>> >>> to bootstrap a 64-bit Linux compiler?<br>> >><br>> >> Have a look at<br>> >><br>> >><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://www.opencm3.net/uploaded-archives/index.html">http://www.opencm3.net/uploaded-archives/index.html</a><br>> >><br>> >> There are some AMD64 archives; I don't know about their status<br>> >> offhand, though. I think Jay Krell produced them.<br>> >> AFAIK there is no regular build on this platform yet.<br>> >><br>> >> Olaf<br>> >> --<br>> >> Olaf Wagner -- elego Software Solutions GmbH<br>> >> Gustav-Meyer-Allee 25 / Gebäude 12, 13355 Berlin, Germany<br>> >> phone: +49 30 23 45 86 96 mobile: +49 177 2345 869 fax: +49 30 23<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> >> 45 86 95<br>> >><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://www.elegosoft.com">http://www.elegosoft.com</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>| Geschäftsführer: Olaf Wagner | Sitz:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> >> Berlin<br>> >> Handelregister: Amtsgericht Charlottenburg HRB 77719 | USt-IdNr:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> >> DE163214194<br>> >><br>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><br></div></span></blockquote></div><br></body></html>