<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div apple-content-edited="true"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; 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widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; border-spacing: 0px 0px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; text-align: auto; -khtml-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -apple-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><div>Think about the difference between safe and UNSAFE in Modula-3.</div></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></div></span> </div><br><div><div>On 18 Dec 2008, at 10:13, Jay wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; "><div class="hmmessage" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana; ">ps: similar question:<br> <br>What does "low level" mean?<br> <br>hand.c and dtoa.c seem low level to me.<br> I know, they are excused because they are rare and in m3core.<br> <br>FilePosixC.c does not.<br> The stuff I did for stat, somewhat.<br> <br>The garbage collector does.<br>But I can't define it, other than, uselessly "dealing with bits is low level", but<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>int is_even(int a) { return !(a & 1); } doesn't seem very "low level", just slightly, and is very "portable".<br> <br>I was given a book about "complexity" as a gift.<br>It makes a point that "complex" and "simple" are hard to define.<br>Many things that seem the one, also seem the other.<br> <br>I have to say, I have whittled down unix/*.i3 a bunch, for all the "new" platforms, and I look at what is left, and I am inclined to keep "attacking" it, keep making it "smaller", like the bitflags in Ustat.i3.<br> <br>I am inclined to write something like this:<br> <br>Ustat.i3:<br> <br>TYPE StatFlags = RECORD<br> X, R, W: INTEGER; (* maybe u_short *)<br>END;<br> <br>PROCEDURE GetStatFlags(VAR StatFlags);<br> <br>UstatC.c<br> <br>typedef struct { long /* maybe u_short */ X, R, W; } StatFlags_t;<br>const static StatFlags_t StatsFlags = { X, R, W };<br>void GetStatFlags(StatFlags_t* Result) { *Result = StatFlags };<br> <br>Any module using any of the flags, would retrieve them in initialization.<br>A bit inefficient.<br>Portable.<br>Cuts out many repeated lines.<br> <br>The C could would need a bit of #ifdefing, to handle platforms that don't have some of the flags, to make them 0.<br> <br>Again, very portable.<br>Cuts out repetition.<br>Is a little slower.<br>I know it also might not work, like if there are switch statements or code needing actual constant constants.<br> <br> <br> - Jay<br><br><br><hr id="stopSpelling"><br>From:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:jay.krell@cornell.edu">jay.krell@cornell.edu</a><br>To:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:hosking@cs.purdue.edu">hosking@cs.purdue.edu</a><br>CC:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:m3devel@elegosoft.com">m3devel@elegosoft.com</a><br>Subject: RE: [M3devel] Fwd: Output from "cron" command<br>Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 22:52:14 +0000<br><br>1) I totally don't mind the emails. I can ignore them for a day or so easily. :)<br> <br> <br>2) C code in m3core or elsewhere. This is a philisophical question I couldn't decide, interested in discussing some.<br>Originally I put "FilePosixC.c" in m3core, and called it from libm3. But I think that's..not great.<br> <br> <br>3) "portable"<br>You throw this word around with emphasis a lot.<br>Portable Modula-3 code.<br>The lie of portable C code.<br>What do you mean?<br> <br> <br>There are many ways to write portable and non-portable Modula-3 and C code.<br>For example there were Modula-3 regression tests printing the size of an integer.<br> Portable to lots of systems, but not all.<br> <br>I can write Modula-3 code or C code dependent or independent of sizeof(int) or long or void*.<br>It's quite easy to do either way, in either language.<br>I don't think that proves anything.<br> <br> <br>Likewise, in both Modula-3 and C, I can easily directly call Posix open, or Win32 CreateFile.<br>They are both actually very portable, but less portable than calling libraries that wrap them.<br>What I mean is, Posix open is implemented on tons of systems, but not all.<br>Win32 CreateFile is also implemented on tons of systems, but not all.<br>It depends partly how you quantify systems.<br>Win32 Create 1) is implemented on over a billion actual machines.<br>open is actually in msvcrt.dll also, but let's ignore it for this discussion.<br>I've read that the "Unix workstation" market is only like in the single digit millions, either sold per year or sold ever.<br>I realize those billion PCs that run Windows, can also run *BSD and Linux, making this all gray.<br> <br>Now, another way to quantify this though, that I find "impressive", is that Win32 CreateFile at least historically was implemented on PowerPC, MIPS, Alpha, and currently x86, IA64, AMD64. Not bad.<br>(Basically, NT has been ported among the most of any /commercial closed source/ OS.)<br> <br>But again, I don't think this proves anything.<br>I can pretty equally easily write portable or non-portable C or Modula, "at the library level".<br> <br>One angle you might argue, is that Modula-3 has a "built in" portability layer/library.<br>It is, in a sense, easier to not call CreateFile or open in Modula-3 than it is in C.<br>If that is what you mean, ok.<br> <br>HOWEVER, if you look at the Modula-3 system, the portability layer, you know, it is forked in terms of Posix and Win32. If you limit yourself to the Posix part of it, well, then, you can use Posix.<br>I realize Posix systems are not all equal, they are all supersets of Posix, with some overlap in their supersetting.<br>That's why my checkin worked on some systems but not others.<br> <br>Also, with respect to I/O, if use just stdio -- very portable.<br>Threading -- finally, soon, multi threading will be very portable in C++, at least to the implementations still being maintained.<br>As well, there is OpenMP.<br> <br>Another angle actually you can play here is quality of compiler.<br>I did some experimentation with a range of compilers I had..I guess I was using C++ at the time.<br>Some older compilers really stunk. Like, with CFront, you couldn't have more than one return.<br>Therefore, code like:<br> int even(int a) <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br> { <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br> if (a & 1) <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br> return 0; <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br> return 1; <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br> }<br> <br>/could/ be deemed not portable.<br> <br>Modula-3 wins here by virtue of there being only one implementation.<br>Cheating I think.<br> <br>See also Python and Perl.<br>Well, ok, Modula-3 wins here by virtue of having a good small language spec.<br>You know..Perl is speced as the language implemented by perl.exe....so big and gnarly and impossible to predict..impossible to write down...C++ is fairly well speced, but only through mountains of paper and endless discussion and clarifications....<br> <br> <br> - Jay<br><br><br><br><hr id="EC_stopSpelling"><br><br>From:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:hosking@cs.purdue.edu">hosking@cs.purdue.edu</a><br>To:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:jay.krell@cornell.edu">jay.krell@cornell.edu</a><br>Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 09:27:36 +1100<br>CC:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:m3devel@elegosoft.com">m3devel@elegosoft.com</a><br>Subject: Re: [M3devel] Fwd: Output from "cron" command<br><br><br><br><div><span class="EC_EC_Apple-style-span" style="word-spacing: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; text-transform: none; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); text-indent: 0px; white-space: normal; letter-spacing: normal; border-collapse: separate; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; "><span class="EC_EC_Apple-style-span" style="word-spacing: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; text-transform: none; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); text-indent: 0px; white-space: normal; letter-spacing: normal; border-collapse: separate; "><span class="EC_EC_Apple-style-span" style="word-spacing: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; text-transform: none; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); text-indent: 0px; white-space: normal; letter-spacing: normal; border-collapse: separate; "><span class="EC_EC_Apple-style-span" style="word-spacing: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; text-transform: none; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); text-indent: 0px; white-space: normal; letter-spacing: normal; border-collapse: separate; "><span class="EC_EC_Apple-style-span" style="word-spacing: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; text-transform: none; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); text-indent: 0px; white-space: normal; letter-spacing: normal; border-collapse: separate; "><span class="EC_EC_Apple-style-span" style="word-spacing: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; text-transform: none; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); text-indent: 0px; white-space: normal; letter-spacing: normal; border-collapse: separate; "><span class="EC_EC_Apple-style-span" style="word-spacing: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; text-transform: none; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); text-indent: 0px; white-space: normal; letter-spacing: normal; border-collapse: separate; "><span class="EC_EC_Apple-style-span" style="word-spacing: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; text-transform: none; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); text-indent: 0px; white-space: normal; letter-spacing: normal; border-collapse: separate; "><span class="EC_EC_Apple-style-span" style="word-spacing: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; text-transform: none; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); text-indent: 0px; white-space: normal; letter-spacing: normal; border-collapse: separate; "><div>No, broken briefly then fixed quickly is OK -- that's what regressions are for. But on the other hand, testing before checkin is probably nicer to the rest of the world. That way you don't get whinging e-mails from me complaining that the Tinderbox regressions broke. I suppose it depends which pain you prefer: my e-mails or testing comprehensively. ;-)</div><div><br></div><div>I would hope that these sorts of system-dependent changes are minimized by keeping as much code in *portable* Modula-3 as possible. To my mind, nothing outside of m3core should need to escape to C.</div></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></div></span></div><br><div><div>On 18 Dec 2008, at 09:24, Jay wrote:</div><br class="EC_EC_Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote><span class="EC_EC_Apple-style-span" style="word-spacing: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; text-transform: none; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); text-indent: 0px; white-space: normal; letter-spacing: normal; border-collapse: separate; "><div class="EC_EC_hmmessage" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana; ">(critical typo -- you can provide a time for it to power back on.)<br>I'm loathe to leave all my machines on and burn the electricity..<br>I don't trust them to have good power management, lower power when idle.<br>I should automate something here though, see if I can run Tinderbox, and see if I can get cron to power on/off.<br>Every time I have looked at the Tinderbox it seemed too difficult to run.<br> <br>On the other hand, I don't know if the status quo is so bad.<br>You tell me it's broken. I understand that is not ideal, and I should fix it fairly asap, but is it terrible every so often?<br>I do tend to at least build multiple platforms, even if not "all"..so not every checkin breaks anything/everything.<br> <br>I figure LINUXLIBC6 is the most popular, and I can always test that on birch.<br> <br> - Jay<br><br><br><hr id="EC_EC_stopSpelling"><br>From:<span class="EC_EC_Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:hosking@cs.purdue.edu">hosking@cs.purdue.edu</a><br>To:<span class="EC_EC_Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:jay.krell@cornell.edu">jay.krell@cornell.edu</a><br>Subject: Re: [M3devel] Fwd: Output from "cron" command<br>Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 09:12:52 +1100<br><br><br><div><span class="EC_EC_EC_Apple-style-span" style="word-spacing: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; text-transform: none; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); text-indent: 0px; white-space: normal; letter-spacing: normal; border-collapse: separate; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; "><span class="EC_EC_EC_Apple-style-span" style="word-spacing: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; text-transform: none; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); text-indent: 0px; white-space: normal; letter-spacing: normal; border-collapse: separate; "><span class="EC_EC_EC_Apple-style-span" style="word-spacing: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; text-transform: none; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); text-indent: 0px; white-space: normal; letter-spacing: normal; border-collapse: separate; "><span class="EC_EC_EC_Apple-style-span" style="word-spacing: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; text-transform: none; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); text-indent: 0px; white-space: normal; letter-spacing: normal; border-collapse: separate; "><span class="EC_EC_EC_Apple-style-span" style="word-spacing: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; text-transform: none; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); text-indent: 0px; white-space: normal; letter-spacing: normal; border-collapse: separate; "><span class="EC_EC_EC_Apple-style-span" style="word-spacing: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; text-transform: none; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); text-indent: 0px; white-space: normal; letter-spacing: normal; border-collapse: separate; "><span class="EC_EC_EC_Apple-style-span" style="word-spacing: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; text-transform: none; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); text-indent: 0px; white-space: normal; letter-spacing: normal; border-collapse: separate; "><span class="EC_EC_EC_Apple-style-span" style="word-spacing: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; text-transform: none; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); text-indent: 0px; white-space: normal; letter-spacing: normal; border-collapse: separate; "><span class="EC_EC_EC_Apple-style-span" style="word-spacing: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; text-transform: none; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); text-indent: 0px; white-space: normal; letter-spacing: normal; border-collapse: separate; "><div>My machine is in a machine room at Purdue, on all the time.</div></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></div></span></div><br><div><div>On 18 Dec 2008, at 08:37, Jay wrote:</div><br class="EC_EC_EC_Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote><span class="EC_EC_EC_Apple-style-span" style="word-spacing: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; text-transform: none; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); text-indent: 0px; white-space: normal; letter-spacing: normal; border-collapse: separate; "><div class="EC_EC_EC_hmmessage" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana; ">I keep most of my machines powered off most of the time.<br> <br>Do you have automation that both runs a daily Tinderbox, and turns the machine on/off?<br>My SGI machine at least has a nice feature where you can software power it off, and provide a time that it should power down. I haven't automated, but it seems ideal for daily Tinderboxes.<br> <br> - Jay<br><br><br><hr id="EC_EC_EC_stopSpelling">From:<span class="EC_EC_EC_Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:hosking@cs.purdue.edu">hosking@cs.purdue.edu</a><br>To:<span class="EC_EC_EC_Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:jay.krell@cornell.edu">jay.krell@cornell.edu</a><br>Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 07:10:05 +1100<br>CC:<span class="EC_EC_EC_Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:m3devel@elegosoft.com">m3devel@elegosoft.com</a><br>Subject: [M3devel] Fwd: Output from "cron" command<br><br><br><div><span class="EC_EC_EC_EC_Apple-style-span" style="word-spacing: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; text-transform: none; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); text-indent: 0px; white-space: normal; letter-spacing: normal; border-collapse: separate; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; "><span class="EC_EC_EC_EC_Apple-style-span" style="word-spacing: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; text-transform: none; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); text-indent: 0px; white-space: normal; letter-spacing: normal; border-collapse: separate; "><span class="EC_EC_EC_EC_Apple-style-span" style="word-spacing: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; text-transform: none; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); text-indent: 0px; white-space: normal; letter-spacing: normal; border-collapse: separate; "><span class="EC_EC_EC_EC_Apple-style-span" style="word-spacing: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; text-transform: none; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); text-indent: 0px; white-space: normal; letter-spacing: normal; border-collapse: separate; "><span class="EC_EC_EC_EC_Apple-style-span" style="word-spacing: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; text-transform: none; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); text-indent: 0px; white-space: normal; letter-spacing: normal; border-collapse: separate; "><span class="EC_EC_EC_EC_Apple-style-span" style="word-spacing: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; text-transform: none; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); text-indent: 0px; white-space: normal; letter-spacing: normal; border-collapse: separate; "><span class="EC_EC_EC_EC_Apple-style-span" style="word-spacing: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; text-transform: none; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); text-indent: 0px; white-space: normal; letter-spacing: normal; border-collapse: separate; "><span class="EC_EC_EC_EC_Apple-style-span" style="word-spacing: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; text-transform: none; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); text-indent: 0px; white-space: normal; letter-spacing: normal; border-collapse: separate; "><span class="EC_EC_EC_EC_Apple-style-span" style="word-spacing: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; text-transform: none; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); text-indent: 0px; white-space: normal; letter-spacing: normal; border-collapse: separate; "><div>Jay,</div><div><br></div><div>I am still getting a compile error on whatever changes you made...</div><div><br></div><div>-- Tony</div></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></div></span></div><div><br><div>Begin forwarded message:</div><br class="EC_EC_EC_EC_Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote><div><div style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; "><font face="Helvetica" color="#000000" size="3" style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); "><b>From:<span class="EC_EC_EC_Apple-converted-space"> </span></b></font><font face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; ">Tony Hosking <<a href="mailto:hosking@cs.purdue.edu">hosking@cs.purdue.edu</a>></font></div><div style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; "><font face="Helvetica" color="#000000" size="3" style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); "><b>Date:<span class="EC_EC_EC_Apple-converted-space"> </span></b></font><font face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; ">18 December 2008 00:04:32 GMT+11:00</font></div><div style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; "><font face="Helvetica" color="#000000" size="3" style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); "><b>To:<span class="EC_EC_EC_Apple-converted-space"> </span></b></font><font face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><a href="mailto:hosking@cs.purdue.edu">hosking@cs.purdue.edu</a></font></div><div style="margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; "><font face="Helvetica" color="#000000" size="3" style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); "><b>Subject:<span class="EC_EC_EC_Apple-converted-space"> </span></b></font><font face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><b>Output from "cron" command</b></font></div><div style="min-height: 14px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; margin-right: 0px; "><br></div></div><div>Your "cron" job on niagara.cs.purdue.edu<br>$HOME/cm3/scripts/regression/cron.sh<br><br>produced the following output:<br><br>TESTHOSTNAME=niagara<br>WS=/homes/hosking/work/cm3-ws/niagara-2008-12-17-11-30-04<br>LASTREL=5.4.0<br>INSTROOT_REL=/homes/hosking/work/cm3-inst/niagara/rel-5.4.0<br>INSTROOT_POK=/homes/hosking/work/cm3-inst/niagara/prev-ok<br>INSTROOT_LOK=/homes/hosking/work/cm3-inst/niagara/last-ok<br>INSTROOT_CUR=/homes/hosking/work/cm3-inst/niagara/current<br>CM3_OSTYPE=POSIX<br>CM3_TARGET=SOLgnu<br>BINDISTMIN=/homes/hosking/work/cm3-min-POSIX-SOLgnu-5.4.0.tgz<br>CM3CVSSERVER=birch.elegosoft.com<br>CM3CVSROOT=birch.elegosoft.com:/usr/cvs<br>BINDISTMIN_NAME=cm3-min-POSIX-SOLgnu-5.4.0.tgz<br>BINDISTMIN=/homes/hosking/work/cm3-min-POSIX-SOLgnu-5.4.0.tgz<br>testing ssh birch.elegosoft.com..<br>ssh birch.elegosoft.com ok<br>Building cm3.<br>Tinderbox Tree: "cm3"<br>Buildname: "SOLgnu SunOS 5.10 niagara release-build"<br><br>creating log file /tmp/build-cm3-20081217-063006-fOaGeh/log.txt<br><br>---<br><br>checkout, compile and test of cm3 ...<br>2008.12.17 06:30:07 -- checkout in progress.<br>[start checkout 2008.12.17 06:30:11]<br>cd /tmp/build-cm3-20081217-063006-fOaGeh/build<br>cvs return value: 0<br>[end checkout 2008.12.17 06:49:43]<br>CHECKOUT_RETURN = 0<br>--<br>2008.12.17 06:49:45 -- compile in progress.<br>[start compile 2008.12.17 06:49:45]<br>compile return value: 0<br>[end compile 2008.12.17 06:55:03]<br>COMPILE_RETURN = 1<br>*** COMPILE FAILED<br>removing build tree /tmp/build-cm3-20081217-063006-fOaGeh ...<br>cleaning CM3 workspaces...<br>/homes/hosking/work/cm3-ws/niagara-*<br><br>cleaning regression test log files...<br>/homes/hosking/tmp/cm3/niagara/cm3-rlog-*<br><br>cleaning m3test log files...<br>/homes/hosking/tmp/cm3/niagara/m3tests-*.stdout<br><br>/homes/hosking/tmp/cm3/niagara/m3tests-*.stderr<br><br>/homes/hosking/tmp/cm3/niagara/m3tests-*.stderr.extract<br><br>cleaning snapshot files...<br>/homes/hosking/tmp/cm3/niagara/cm3-min-POSIX-SOLgnu-*-*.tgz<br><br>cleaning package reports...<br>/tmp/cm3-pkg-report-SOLgnu-*.html<br><br>TESTHOSTNAME=niagara<br>WS=/homes/hosking/work/cm3-ws/niagara-2008-12-17-11-57-02<br>LASTREL=5.4.0<br>INSTROOT_REL=/homes/hosking/work/cm3-inst/niagara/rel-5.4.0<br>INSTROOT_POK=/homes/hosking/work/cm3-inst/niagara/prev-ok<br>INSTROOT_LOK=/homes/hosking/work/cm3-inst/niagara/last-ok<br>INSTROOT_CUR=/homes/hosking/work/cm3-inst/niagara/current<br>CM3_OSTYPE=POSIX<br>CM3_TARGET=SOLgnu<br>BINDISTMIN=/homes/hosking/work/cm3-min-POSIX-SOLgnu-5.4.0.tgz<br>CM3CVSSERVER=birch.elegosoft.com<br>CM3CVSROOT=birch.elegosoft.com:/usr/cvs<br>BINDISTMIN_NAME=cm3-min-POSIX-SOLgnu-5.4.0.tgz<br>BINDISTMIN=/homes/hosking/work/cm3-min-POSIX-SOLgnu-5.4.0.tgz<br>testing ssh birch.elegosoft.com..<br>ssh birch.elegosoft.com ok<br>Building cm3.<br>Tinderbox Tree: "cm3"<br>Buildname: "SOLgnu SunOS 5.10 niagara lastok-build"<br><br>creating log file /tmp/build-cm3-20081217-065704-RGaGCn/log.txt<br><br>---<br><br>checkout, compile and test of cm3 ...<br>2008.12.17 06:57:04 -- checkout in progress.<br>[start checkout 2008.12.17 06:57:06]<br>cd /tmp/build-cm3-20081217-065704-RGaGCn/build<br>cvs return value: 0<br>[end checkout 2008.12.17 07:16:18]<br>CHECKOUT_RETURN = 0<br>--<br>2008.12.17 07:16:21 -- compile in progress.<br>[start compile 2008.12.17 07:16:21]<br>compile return value: 0<br>[end compile 2008.12.17 08:01:31]<br>COMPILE_RETURN = 0<br>2008.12.17 08:01:38 -- tests in progress.<br>[start run-tests 2008.12.17 08:01:38]<br>cd /tmp/build-cm3-20081217-065704-RGaGCn/build<br>[end run-tests 2008.12.17 08:01:38]<br>TESTS_RETURN = 0<br>2008.12.17 08:01:38 -- checkout, compile and test run done.<br><br>---<br><br>removing build tree /tmp/build-cm3-20081217-065704-RGaGCn ...<br>cleaning CM3 workspaces...<br>/homes/hosking/work/cm3-ws/niagara-*<br><br>cleaning regression test log files...<br>/homes/hosking/tmp/cm3/niagara/cm3-rlog-*<br><br>cleaning m3test log files...<br>/homes/hosking/tmp/cm3/niagara/m3tests-*.stdout<br><br>/homes/hosking/tmp/cm3/niagara/m3tests-*.stderr<br><br>/homes/hosking/tmp/cm3/niagara/m3tests-*.stderr.extract<br><br>cleaning snapshot files...<br>/homes/hosking/tmp/cm3/niagara/cm3-min-POSIX-SOLgnu-*-*.tgz<br><br>cleaning package reports...<br>/tmp/cm3-pkg-report-SOLgnu-*.html<br><br>done.<br></div></blockquote></div><br></div></span><br class="EC_EC_EC_Apple-interchange-newline"></blockquote></div><br></div></span><br class="EC_EC_Apple-interchange-newline"></blockquote></div><br></div></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></blockquote></div><br></body></html>