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font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; text-indent: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium; ">On 18 Jul 2009, at 08:27, Jay K wrote:</span></div></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></div></span></div></span></div><div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div class="hmmessage" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana; "><ul><li>mentor startup crash on Darwin</li></ul><br>PPC_DARWIN? All Darwin?<br>ie: What I reported?<br>Yes sounds bad.<br>Maybe the same thing as formsedit.<br><br></div></span></blockquote><div><br></div><div>This one is serious. It is a new bug as far as I know, since I had mentor running fine about a year or so ago.</div><div><br></div><br><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div class="hmmessage" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana; "><br> - Jay<br><br><br>> Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 14:18:22 +0200<br>> From:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:wagner@elegosoft.com">wagner@elegosoft.com</a><br>> To:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:m3devel@elegosoft.com">m3devel@elegosoft.com</a><br>> CC:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:admins@elego.de">admins@elego.de</a><br>> Subject: [M3devel] RC2 Release Engineering Status and Trac-king<br>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> We really need to use some tools to help us keep (or gain?)<br>> control of the release process. Trac has been available for more<br>> than a year, but nobody has actively used it. Maybe this is a good<br>> time now :-)<br>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> I've started by sketching a roadmap with RC2, 5.8 and 5.9.<br>> See here:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://projects.elego.de/cm3/roadmap">https://projects.elego.de/cm3/roadmap</a><br>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> Please add all the problems that were just reported via mail<br>> to the trac database with `new ticket':<br>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://projects.elego.de/cm3/newticket">https://projects.elego.de/cm3/newticket</a>.<br>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> I've tried it for the cm3ide crash (ticket 1002); it seems to work<br>> fine. Some older bug reports are also still unresolved, but we can<br>> check them later.<br>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> It would also be helpful if all active developers had personalized<br>> access and would help updating the tickets and the WiKi. Please send<br>> mail to admins(at)elego.de to obtain an account from Michael or Joffrey.<br>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> Please let's use this; I'm afraid we'll lose control without it.<br>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> It also has the advantage that the HTTP GUI is accessible from the<br>> customer network I'm usually working on (while everything else is<br>> blocked).<br>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> Thanks in advance for your cooperation,<br>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> Olaf<br>> --<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>> Olaf Wagner -- elego Software Solutions GmbH<br>> Gustav-Meyer-Allee 25 / Gebäude 12, 13355 Berlin, Germany<br>> phone: +49 30 23 45 86 96 mobile: +49 177 2345 869 fax: +49 30 23 45 86 95<br>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://www.elegosoft.com">http://www.elegosoft.com</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>| Geschäftsführer: Olaf Wagner | Sitz: Berlin<br>> Handelregister: Amtsgericht Charlottenburg HRB 77719 | USt-IdNr: DE163214194<br>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br></div></span></blockquote></div><br></body></html>