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-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; text-transform: none; orphans: 2; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; "><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: medium;"><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#0000FF" face="'Gill Sans'">I think that we are closest now to a release we can be happy with than for some time. It would be a huge shame not to push this out the door.</font></span></div></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></div></span></span>
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<br><div><div>On 17 Jan 2010, at 06:38, Olaf Wagner wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div>Quoting Jay K <<a href="mailto:jay.krell@cornell.edu">jay.krell@cornell.edu</a>>:<br><br><blockquote type="cite">Should we just make a new release branch?<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Or I keep copying stuff over somewhat selectively?<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> We do want LONGCARD in the release, I assume.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">I'll diff the two trees again, see what varies.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Sometimes when I do that I find stuff to take.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"> And take the LONGCARD changes.<br></blockquote><br>From a release engineering point of view this is more or less<br>a nightmare. We cannot make incompatible extensions to the feature<br>set after the fourth release candidate.<br><br>The only clean way I'd see to even get the LONGINT changes into the<br>next release would be to start anew. Meaning declaring 5.8.4 as<br>the latest release and develop 5.9 on the trunk. Of course we'd<br>have to carefully merge back any fixes that might be missing on the<br>trunk right now.<br><br>That said, I have currently neither the time nor the energy to do all<br>that cleanly. I didn't even get round to set up release builds<br>on <a href="http://new.elego.de">new.elego.de</a> via Hudson in order to cover the FreeBSD4 target<br>platform we recently lost in the release due to my home machine's<br>complete crash in December. So the release engineering support is not<br>in the best of states I must admit.<br><br>I could live with declaring 5.8.RC4 as an intermediate release,<br>but somebody really needs to do all the housekeeping of comparing<br>and merging branches. And we shouldn't start a new release branch<br>until things have settled down.<br><br>Is anybody interested in taking over some of the release engineering<br>tasks (including Hudson management and re-targeting to the new release)?<br><br>Please keep in mind that we haven't managed to get out a stable release<br>for several years now.<br><br>Olaf<br>-- <br>Olaf Wagner -- elego Software Solutions GmbH<br> Gustav-Meyer-Allee 25 / Gebäude 12, 13355 Berlin, Germany<br>phone: +49 30 23 45 86 96 mobile: +49 177 2345 869 fax: +49 30 23 45 86 95<br> <a href="http://www.elegosoft.com">http://www.elegosoft.com</a> | Geschäftsführer: Olaf Wagner | Sitz: Berlin<br>Handelregister: Amtsgericht Charlottenburg HRB 77719 | USt-IdNr: DE163214194<br><br></div></blockquote></div><br></body></html>