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<pre> > A language and its implementation in a compiler does not necessarily<br> > require a full-fledged intergrated development environment like Eclipse.<br><br><br>Programmers today are not used to using plain text editors.<br>They are used to wizards and intellisense.<br>It would take a lot of work I think to make Modula-3<br>at all usable to any programmer under 30 years old.<br>Even older folks have largely become spoiled.<br><br> - Jay<br></pre>> Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 09:40:14 +0100<br>> From: wagner@elegosoft.com<br>> To: zeev.blu@gmail.com<br>> CC: m3devel@elegosoft.com; m3-support@elego.de; moriah.moshe@gmail.com<br>> Subject: Re: [M3devel] cm3-ide<br>> <br>> Quoting זאב בלומנצויג <zeev.blu@gmail.com>:<br>> <br>> > Hi,<br>> > First, thanks for the quick reply.<br>> ><br>> > I have tried to use the file you gave me, and some other files from that<br>> > site.<br>> > I have some questions:<br>> > 1. If I understand correctly, the method of working with this compiler is<br>> > through the CMD in WINDOWS. Is not this language a IDE to work with?<br>> <br>> A language and its implementation in a compiler does not necessarily<br>> require a full-fledged intergrated development environment like Eclipse.<br>> My faourite IDE when I was actively using M3 was always XEmacs :-)<br>> There _is_ a web-based cm3-ide (which should be contained in that<br>> archive) that allows you to build and manage your projects with a<br>> standard web browser, but that might be quite different from your<br>> expectations of an IDE, too ;-)<br>> <br>> > 2. When I tried to compile , I got a linking error:<br>> ><br>> > " link is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable<br>> > program or batch file."<br>> ><br>> > And then another error:<br>> ><br>> > "... \cm3 \ bin \ cm3.cfg ", line 455: quake runtime error: link failed "<br>> ><br>> > And finally I received:<br>> ><br>> > " Fatal Error: procedure "m3_link" defined in "... \ cm3 \ bin \ cm3.cfg"<br>> > failed. "<br>> <br>> You either missed the installation of a suitable system linker as<br>> described in the "Windows installation notes" referred to below or<br>> you didn't set the appropriate variables in your environment or in<br>> the cm3 configuration files. CM3 does not include a system linker,<br>> and on Windows you have got to install one yourself, while on all<br>> other systems it usually is installed by default.<br>> <br>> You can use the cm3 option "-commands" to actually view the external<br>> commands the builder is calling.<br>> <br>> I hope this helps,<br>> <br>> Olaf<br>> <br>> > Thanks for your help<br>> ><br>> > zeev blumentzvaig<br>> ><br>> ><br>> > 2011/2/18 Olaf Wagner <wagner@elegosoft.com><br>> ><br>> >> Quoting זאב בלומנצויג <zeev.blu@gmail.com>:<br>> >><br>> >> Hi,<br>> >>> I am a student of Software Engineering.<br>> >>> I want to learn the language modula-3 and I'm trying to install IDE on my<br>> >>> computer.<br>> >>> I have windows 7 operating system and I can not find any suitable<br>> >>> installation file.<br>> >>> Do you have appropriate file or instructions how to do it on another<br>> >>> system?<br>> >>> I need it for exercise in school and I'd love it if you could help me.<br>> >>> Thank you.<br>> >>> zeev blumentzvaig<br>> >>><br>> >><br>> >> What exactly have you tried already?<br>> >><br>> >> The archive for Windows listed on http://www.opencm3.net/download.html,<br>> >> http://www.opencm3.net/cm3-min-WIN32-NT386-d5.5.0.zip, should<br>> >> work for Windows 7, too, as far as I know. You simply need to<br>> >> unpack it and install a suitable linker, as described for example in<br>> >> http://www.opencm3.net/installation-windows.html.<br>> >><br>> >> In order to help you, we need to know exactly what you have done and<br>> >> what failed. I'm not an expert on Windows; others on the list may<br>> >> be able to help better, so I CC this to m3devel.<br>> >><br>> >> Olaf<br>> -- <br>> Olaf Wagner -- elego Software Solutions GmbH<br>> Gustav-Meyer-Allee 25 / Gebäude 12, 13355 Berlin, Germany<br>> phone: +49 30 23 45 86 96 mobile: +49 177 2345 869 fax: +49 30 23 45 86 95<br>> http://www.elegosoft.com | Geschäftsführer: Olaf Wagner | Sitz: Berlin<br>> Handelregister: Amtsgericht Charlottenburg HRB 77719 | USt-IdNr: DE163214194<br>> <br> </body>
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