<font face="courier new,monospace">in an interesting conversation with a friend of mine, we compared GO and Modula-3<br></font><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="'courier new', monospace">I said that the main difference, is that the GO people want their language used by other people, but the Modula-3 people seemed too busy to try to grow the community, by providing an easy to use installer on windows.<br>
</font></div><div><div class="gmail_quote"><br></div><div class="gmail_quote">this lead me to think hard, because, I'm not sure of what efforts have been made, to grow the community.</div><div class="gmail_quote"><br>
</div><div class="gmail_quote">is anybody in this list actively working on this?</div><div class="gmail_quote"><br></div><div class="gmail_quote">is having a larger modula3 community, desirable?</div><div class="gmail_quote">
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1. hardware/software sales.. AlphaServer DS10L, Tru64 (Jay K)<br>
2. Re: hardware/software sales.. AlphaServer DS10L, Tru64<br>
(Daniel Alejandro Benavides D.)<br>
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Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 20:55:50 +0000<br>
From: Jay K <<a href="mailto:jay.krell@cornell.edu">jay.krell@cornell.edu</a>><br>
Subject: [M3devel] hardware/software sales.. AlphaServer DS10L, Tru64<br>
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sorry if this is too repititive.<br>
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I have two AlphaServer DS10Ls.<br>
I believe they both work.<br>
They have CPU and memory.<br>
And maybe hard drive.<br>
one had a problem with the hard drive I think and I was/am mid-replacing it.<br>
And maybe optical drive -- one has it. I was mid-moving it to other to install from CD.<br>
<br>
<br>
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They can run any of: Linux, NetBSD, OpenBSD, FreeBSD, VMS, Tru64, Windows (NT 4.0).<br>
<br>
<br>
I can throw in one complete copy of Tru64 5.1b. Box. Manuals. CDs.<br>
<br>
Cost is that we split shipping to US.<br>
<br>
And ideally you let me ssh in, get Modula-3 up-and-running, maybe leave it as Hudson node.<br>
I.e. you provide space and electricity. At least temporarily. Space, really.<br>
<br>
<br>
We already got Tru64 (re)working within the past year. On older versions.<br>
NT 4.0 is too much work, until/unless we have a C backend. And then it would be interesting, really. I can provide/acquire NT 4.0/Alpha.<br>
VMS is almost done. And otherwise available to me..but seemingly very slow. I'd like to give it another chance on another machine.<br>
The others should all be easy and I would bother with doing them.<br>
Hudson wouldn't likely be viable on OpenBSD, NetBSD, FreeBSD.<br>
Hudson should be easily viable on Linux (Debian 5.0; current Gentoo) and maybe others (VMS? Tru64?).<br>
<br>
I can also provide for half shipping to USA:<br>
Mac laptop for PPC_LINUX<br>
PC laptops for I386_LINUX, I386_OPENBSD.<br>
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But I might set those back up.<br>
<br>
<br>
- Jay<br>
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From: "Daniel Alejandro Benavides D." <<a href="mailto:dabenavidesd@yahoo.es">dabenavidesd@yahoo.es</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [M3devel] hardware/software sales.. AlphaServer DS10L,<br>
Tru64<br>
To: m3devel <<a href="mailto:m3devel@elegosoft.com">m3devel@elegosoft.com</a>>, Jay K <<a href="mailto:jay.krell@cornell.edu">jay.krell@cornell.edu</a>><br>
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Hi all:<br>
I know it may sound odd, but how about installing the full working M3 system on every one of it (thus you kind of sell the as a CM3 server of its own win*/*ix flavor) , does someone can create such a server (through potential SPIN OS Sphinix)? I mean code generate for every platform on each row, or if you have multiple OS then built a matrix hw x OS<br>
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OS??????? | Linux | FreeBSD | OpenBSD | Tru64 | Mac OSX | NT4.0 | HP-UX | AIX<br>
HW?????? -----------+---------------+----------------+----------+----------------+----------+-----------+-------<br>
DECaxp?? o????? | ?????? o?????? |??????? o??????? | ??? o???? | ????? +? ? ? ? | ? ?? x ?? | ? ?? + ?? |?? +??????<br>
i86pc??????? o????? | ?????? o?????? | ?????? o??????? | ??? +??? | ?????? x??????? | ???? x??? | ???? x ?? | ? +<br>
i86smp???? o????? |??????? o?????? | ?????? o??????? | ??? + ?? | ?????? o? ? ? ? |? ? ? x ?? | ?? ? x ?? |?? + ??? Ppc ???????? o?????? |?????? o?????? |???????? o?????? |????? +??? |?????? o??????? |????? x??? |?????? +?? |??? o<br>
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I myself would need some help to install any of those systems, so if you could build? the system in itself would be wonderful. Best than that perhaps with alternate multiBoot and/or in original conditions.<br>
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Thanks in advance<br>
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--- El vie, 24/6/11, Jay K <<a href="mailto:jay.krell@cornell.edu">jay.krell@cornell.edu</a>> escribi?:<br>
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De: Jay K <<a href="mailto:jay.krell@cornell.edu">jay.krell@cornell.edu</a>><br>
Asunto: [M3devel] hardware/software sales.. AlphaServer DS10L, Tru64<br>
Para: "m3devel" <<a href="mailto:m3devel@elegosoft.com">m3devel@elegosoft.com</a>><br>
Fecha: viernes, 24 de junio, 2011 15:55<br>
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<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
sorry if this is too repititive.<br>
<br>
<br>
I have two AlphaServer DS10Ls.<br>
I believe they both work.<br>
They have CPU and memory.<br>
And maybe hard drive.<br>
? one had a problem with the hard drive I think and I was/am mid-replacing it.<br>
And maybe optical drive -- one has it. I was mid-moving it to other to install from CD.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
They can run any of: Linux, NetBSD, OpenBSD, FreeBSD, VMS, Tru64, Windows (NT 4.0).<br>
<br>
<br>
I can throw in one complete copy of Tru64 5.1b. Box. Manuals. CDs.<br>
<br>
Cost is that we split shipping to US.<br>
<br>
And ideally you let me ssh in, get Modula-3 up-and-running, maybe leave it as Hudson node.<br>
? I.e. you provide space and electricity. At least temporarily. Space, really.<br>
<br>
<br>
We already got Tru64 (re)working within the past year. On older versions.<br>
NT 4.0 is too much work, until/unless we have a C backend. And then it would be interesting, really. I can provide/acquire NT 4.0/Alpha.<br>
VMS is almost done. And otherwise available to me..but seemingly very slow. I'd like to give it another chance on another machine.<br>
The others should all be easy and I would bother with doing them.<br>
? Hudson wouldn't likely be viable on OpenBSD, NetBSD, FreeBSD.<br>
? Hudson should be easily viable on Linux (Debian 5.0; current Gentoo) and maybe others (VMS? Tru64?).<br>
<br>
I can also provide for half shipping to USA:<br>
?Mac laptop for PPC_LINUX<br>
?PC laptops for I386_LINUX, I386_OPENBSD.<br>
<br>
<br>
But I might set those back up.<br>
<br>
<br>
?- Jay<br>
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