<font face="courier new,monospace">to Daniel:<br></font><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="'courier new', monospace"><br></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="'courier new', monospace">the message was garbled<br>
</font></div><div><div class="gmail_quote"><br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><br></div><div class="gmail_quote">perhaps you can create a google docs free table and show it to us in a URL ?</div><div class="gmail_quote">
<br>
</div><div class="gmail_quote"><br></div><div class="gmail_quote">this is how it appeared in my gmail:</div><div class="gmail_quote"><br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><br></div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; ">OS??????? | Linux | FreeBSD | OpenBSD | Tru64 | Mac OSX | NT4.0 | HP-UX | AIX<br>
HW?????? -----------+---------------+----------------+----------+----------------+----------+-----------+-------<br>DECaxp?? o????? | ?????? o?????? |??????? o??????? | ???<br> o???? | ????? +? ? ? ? | ? ?? x ?? | ? ?? + ?? |?? +??????<br>
i86pc??????? o????? | ?????? o?????? | ?????? o??????? | ??? +??? | ?????? x??????? | ???? x??? | ???? x ?? | ? +<br>i86smp???? o????? |??????? o?????? | ?????? o??????? | ??? + ?? |<br></span><div class="gmail_quote"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; "> ?????? o? ? ? ? |? ? ? x ?? | ?? ? x ?? |?? + ??? Ppc ???????? o?????? |?????? o?????? |???????? o?????? |????? +??? |?????? o??????? |????? x??? |?????? +?? |??? o</span></div>
<div class="gmail_quote"><br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><br></div><div class="gmail_quote">not the most readable...</div><div class="gmail_quote"><br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><br></div><div class="gmail_quote">
to Mr. Jay K </div>
<div class="gmail_quote"><br></div><div class="gmail_quote">I recommend you seek poor schools in your Area, that might be in need of a computer, and provide them it so that the kids can learn linux or whatever.</div><div class="gmail_quote">
<br></div><div class="gmail_quote">this would reduce shipping cost, as for ssh, perhaps they won't have a public IP, but you should still be able to login, if you install hamachi or a similar product in both ends.</div>
<div class="gmail_quote"><br></div><div class="gmail_quote">I'm sure there are schools in your zipcode that don't have access to a server like the one you mention.</div><div class="gmail_quote"><br></div><div class="gmail_quote">
or maybe a community college or government-run university ?</div><div class="gmail_quote"><br></div><div class="gmail_quote">good luck</div><div class="gmail_quote"><br></div><div class="gmail_quote">I'd help you myself, but I live too far away, unfortunately.</div>
<div class="gmail_quote"><br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><br></div><div class="gmail_quote">2011/6/27 <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:m3devel-request@elegosoft.com">m3devel-request@elegosoft.com</a>></span><br>
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From: "Daniel Alejandro Benavides D." <<a href="mailto:dabenavidesd@yahoo.es">dabenavidesd@yahoo.es</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [M3devel] hardware/software sales.. AlphaServer DS10L,<br>
Tru64<br>
To: m3devel <<a href="mailto:m3devel@elegosoft.com">m3devel@elegosoft.com</a>>, Jay K <<a href="mailto:jay.krell@cornell.edu">jay.krell@cornell.edu</a>><br>
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Hi all:<br>
completely forgot the Win9* systems, perhaps the idea is not bad at all, sicne many of those machines were in emerging markets already and maybe still there:<br>
<a href="http://www.cs.tut.fi/lintula/manual/modula3/modula-3/html/m3ug-oopsla94/summary.html" target="_blank">http://www.cs.tut.fi/lintula/manual/modula3/modula-3/html/m3ug-oopsla94/summary.html</a><br>
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Finally a word about of Juno-2, if the most important of tools is that, there is a way to do it, I run it on cygwinb20, it runs smoothly, interesting tough to see it on a Chicago/PC!<br>
<br>
Thanks in advance<br>
<br>
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De: Daniel Alejandro Benavides D. <<a href="mailto:dabenavidesd@yahoo.es">dabenavidesd@yahoo.es</a>><br>
Asunto: Re: [M3devel] hardware/software sales.. AlphaServer DS10L, Tru64<br>
Para: "m3devel" <<a href="mailto:m3devel@elegosoft.com">m3devel@elegosoft.com</a>>, "Jay K" <<a href="mailto:jay.krell@cornell.edu">jay.krell@cornell.edu</a>><br>
Fecha: viernes, 24 de junio, 2011 20:15<br>
<br>
Hi all:<br>
I know it may sound odd, but how about installing the full working M3 system on every one of it (thus you kind of sell the as a CM3 server of its own win*/*ix flavor) , does someone can create such a server (through potential SPIN OS Sphinix)? I mean code generate for every platform on each row, or if you have multiple OS then built a matrix hw x OS<br>
<br>
OS??????? | Linux | FreeBSD | OpenBSD | Tru64 | Mac OSX | NT4.0 | HP-UX | AIX<br>
HW?????? -----------+---------------+----------------+----------+----------------+----------+-----------+-------<br>
DECaxp?? o????? | ?????? o?????? |??????? o??????? | ???<br>
o???? | ????? +? ? ? ? | ? ?? x ?? | ? ?? + ?? |?? +??????<br>
i86pc??????? o????? | ?????? o?????? | ?????? o??????? | ??? +??? | ?????? x??????? | ???? x??? | ???? x ?? | ? +<br>
i86smp???? o????? |??????? o?????? | ?????? o??????? | ??? + ?? |<br>
?????? o? ? ? ? |? ? ? x ?? | ?? ? x ?? |?? + ??? Ppc ???????? o?????? |?????? o?????? |???????? o?????? |????? +??? |?????? o??????? |????? x??? |?????? +?? |??? o<br>
<br>
<br>
I myself would need some help to install any of those systems, so if you could build? the system in itself would be wonderful. Best than that perhaps with alternate multiBoot and/or in original conditions.<br>
<br>
Thanks in advance<br>
<br>
--- El vie, 24/6/11,<br>
Jay K <<a href="mailto:jay.krell@cornell.edu">jay.krell@cornell.edu</a>> escribi?:<br>
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De: Jay K <<a href="mailto:jay.krell@cornell.edu">jay.krell@cornell.edu</a>><br>
Asunto: [M3devel] hardware/software sales.. AlphaServer DS10L, Tru64<br>
Para: "m3devel" <<a href="mailto:m3devel@elegosoft.com">m3devel@elegosoft.com</a>><br>
Fecha: viernes, 24 de junio, 2011 15:55<br>
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<br>
sorry if this is too repititive.<br>
<br>
<br>
I have two AlphaServer DS10Ls.<br>
I believe they both work.<br>
They have CPU and memory.<br>
And maybe hard drive.<br>
? one had a problem with the hard drive I think and I was/am mid-replacing it.<br>
And maybe optical drive -- one has it. I was mid-moving it to other to install from CD.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
They can run any of: Linux, NetBSD, OpenBSD, FreeBSD, VMS, Tru64, Windows (NT 4.0).<br>
<br>
<br>
I can throw in one complete copy of Tru64 5.1b. Box. Manuals. CDs.<br>
<br>
Cost is that we split shipping to US.<br>
<br>
And ideally you let me ssh in, get Modula-3 up-and-running, maybe leave it as Hudson node.<br>
? I.e. you provide space and electricity. At least temporarily. Space, really.<br>
<br>
<br>
We already got Tru64 (re)working within the past year. On older versions.<br>
NT 4.0 is too much work, until/unless we have a C backend. And then it would be interesting, really. I can provide/acquire NT<br>
4.0/Alpha.<br>
VMS is almost done. And otherwise available to me..but seemingly very slow. I'd like to give it another chance on another machine.<br>
The others should all be easy and I would bother with doing them.<br>
? Hudson wouldn't likely be viable on OpenBSD, NetBSD, FreeBSD.<br>
? Hudson should be easily viable on Linux (Debian 5.0; current Gentoo) and maybe others (VMS? Tru64?).<br>
<br>
I can also provide for half shipping to USA:<br>
?Mac laptop for PPC_LINUX<br>
?PC laptops for I386_LINUX, I386_OPENBSD.<br>
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<br>
But I might set those back up.<br>
<br>
<br>
?- Jay<br>
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in an interesting conversation with a friend of mine, we compared GO and<br>
Modula-3<br>
I said that the main difference, is that the GO people want their language<br>
used by other people, but the Modula-3 people seemed too busy to try to grow<br>
the community, by providing an easy to use installer on windows.<br>
<br>
this lead me to think hard, because, I'm not sure of what efforts have been<br>
made, to grow the community.<br>
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is anybody in this list actively working on this?<br>
<br>
is having a larger modula3 community, desirable?<br>
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> From: Jay K <<a href="mailto:jay.krell@cornell.edu">jay.krell@cornell.edu</a>><br>
> Subject: [M3devel] hardware/software sales.. AlphaServer DS10L, Tru64<br>
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> sorry if this is too repititive.<br>
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><br>
> I have two AlphaServer DS10Ls.<br>
> I believe they both work.<br>
> They have CPU and memory.<br>
> And maybe hard drive.<br>
> one had a problem with the hard drive I think and I was/am mid-replacing<br>
> it.<br>
> And maybe optical drive -- one has it. I was mid-moving it to other to<br>
> install from CD.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> They can run any of: Linux, NetBSD, OpenBSD, FreeBSD, VMS, Tru64, Windows<br>
> (NT 4.0).<br>
><br>
><br>
> I can throw in one complete copy of Tru64 5.1b. Box. Manuals. CDs.<br>
><br>
> Cost is that we split shipping to US.<br>
><br>
> And ideally you let me ssh in, get Modula-3 up-and-running, maybe leave it<br>
> as Hudson node.<br>
> I.e. you provide space and electricity. At least temporarily. Space,<br>
> really.<br>
><br>
><br>
> We already got Tru64 (re)working within the past year. On older versions.<br>
> NT 4.0 is too much work, until/unless we have a C backend. And then it<br>
> would be interesting, really. I can provide/acquire NT 4.0/Alpha.<br>
> VMS is almost done. And otherwise available to me..but seemingly very slow.<br>
> I'd like to give it another chance on another machine.<br>
> The others should all be easy and I would bother with doing them.<br>
> Hudson wouldn't likely be viable on OpenBSD, NetBSD, FreeBSD.<br>
> Hudson should be easily viable on Linux (Debian 5.0; current Gentoo) and<br>
> maybe others (VMS? Tru64?).<br>
><br>
> I can also provide for half shipping to USA:<br>
> Mac laptop for PPC_LINUX<br>
> PC laptops for I386_LINUX, I386_OPENBSD.<br>
><br>
><br>
> But I might set those back up.<br>
><br>
><br>
> - Jay<br>
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> To: m3devel <<a href="mailto:m3devel@elegosoft.com">m3devel@elegosoft.com</a>>, Jay K <<a href="mailto:jay.krell@cornell.edu">jay.krell@cornell.edu</a>><br>
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> Hi all:<br>
> I know it may sound odd, but how about installing the full working M3<br>
> system on every one of it (thus you kind of sell the as a CM3 server of its<br>
> own win*/*ix flavor) , does someone can create such a server (through<br>
> potential SPIN OS Sphinix)? I mean code generate for every platform on each<br>
> row, or if you have multiple OS then built a matrix hw x OS<br>
><br>
> OS??????? | Linux | FreeBSD | OpenBSD | Tru64 | Mac OSX | NT4.0 | HP-UX |<br>
> AIX<br>
> HW??????<br>
> -----------+---------------+----------------+----------+----------------+----------+-----------+-------<br>
> DECaxp?? o????? | ?????? o?????? |??????? o??????? | ??? o???? | ????? +? ?<br>
> ? ? | ? ?? x ?? | ? ?? + ?? |?? +??????<br>
> i86pc??????? o????? | ?????? o?????? | ?????? o??????? | ??? +??? | ??????<br>
> x??????? | ???? x??? | ???? x ?? | ? +<br>
> i86smp???? o????? |??????? o?????? | ?????? o??????? | ??? + ?? | ?????? o?<br>
> ? ? ? |? ? ? x ?? | ?? ? x ?? |?? + ??? Ppc ???????? o?????? |?????? o??????<br>
> |???????? o?????? |????? +??? |?????? o??????? |????? x??? |?????? +?? |???<br>
> o<br>
><br>
><br>
> I myself would need some help to install any of those systems, so if you<br>
> could build? the system in itself would be wonderful. Best than that perhaps<br>
> with alternate multiBoot and/or in original conditions.<br>
><br>
> Thanks in advance<br>
><br>
> --- El vie, 24/6/11, Jay K <<a href="mailto:jay.krell@cornell.edu">jay.krell@cornell.edu</a>> escribi?:<br>
><br>
> De: Jay K <<a href="mailto:jay.krell@cornell.edu">jay.krell@cornell.edu</a>><br>
> Asunto: [M3devel] hardware/software sales.. AlphaServer DS10L, Tru64<br>
> Para: "m3devel" <<a href="mailto:m3devel@elegosoft.com">m3devel@elegosoft.com</a>><br>
> Fecha: viernes, 24 de junio, 2011 15:55<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> sorry if this is too repititive.<br>
><br>
><br>
> I have two AlphaServer DS10Ls.<br>
> I believe they both work.<br>
> They have CPU and memory.<br>
> And maybe hard drive.<br>
> ? one had a problem with the hard drive I think and I was/am mid-replacing<br>
> it.<br>
> And maybe optical drive -- one has it. I was mid-moving it to other to<br>
> install from CD.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> They can run any of: Linux, NetBSD, OpenBSD, FreeBSD, VMS, Tru64, Windows<br>
> (NT 4.0).<br>
><br>
><br>
> I can throw in one complete copy of Tru64 5.1b. Box. Manuals. CDs.<br>
><br>
> Cost is that we split shipping to US.<br>
><br>
> And ideally you let me ssh in, get Modula-3 up-and-running, maybe leave it<br>
> as Hudson node.<br>
> ? I.e. you provide space and electricity. At least temporarily. Space,<br>
> really.<br>
><br>
><br>
> We already got Tru64 (re)working within the past year. On older versions.<br>
> NT 4.0 is too much work, until/unless we have a C backend. And then it<br>
> would be interesting, really. I can provide/acquire NT 4.0/Alpha.<br>
> VMS is almost done. And otherwise available to me..but seemingly very slow.<br>
> I'd like to give it another chance on another machine.<br>
> The others should all be easy and I would bother with doing them.<br>
> ? Hudson wouldn't likely be viable on OpenBSD, NetBSD, FreeBSD.<br>
> ? Hudson should be easily viable on Linux (Debian 5.0; current Gentoo) and<br>
> maybe others (VMS? Tru64?).<br>
><br>
> I can also provide for half shipping to USA:<br>
> ?Mac laptop for PPC_LINUX<br>
> ?PC laptops for I386_LINUX, I386_OPENBSD.<br>
><br>
><br>
> But I might set those back up.<br>
><br>
><br>
> ?- Jay<br>
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