<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;">Hi all:<br>Oh my mistake, forgot the link:<br>http://archive.computerhistory.org/resources/access/text/Oral_History/102658126.05.01.acc.pdf<br><br>It's a piece of history lost in the time of computing history (or whatever it became after that IMHO whatever it could became and also perhaps vice versa).<br>There is value in that certainly, here at my school in late 70's and 80's had never the chance to use any Mini, just Micros, which supports the idea of Unix haters (or the best Win consumer of all the world last year) which explain that.<br>Also this times are another history but certainly big influenced by that chance.<br>The all point of it is that there was an OS with actual support for SMP and thread at system-level and I'm trustful its scheduler was enough good source of testing and certainly is better than that if anything else (if I may say so), but
would still hang on it (if it doesn't matter anyone else, which I don't consider at this point). Big support of new machines could be strong influenced by that's as well I believe<br>Thanks in advance<br><br><br>--- El <b>jue, 14/7/11, felipe valdez <i><felipevaldez@gmail.com></i></b> escribió:<br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"><br>De: felipe valdez <felipevaldez@gmail.com><br>Asunto: Re: [M3devel] Fwd: Output from "cron" command<br>Para: "Daniel Alejandro Benavides D." <dabenavidesd@yahoo.es><br>CC: "m3devel developers" <m3devel@elegosoft.com>, "Tony Hosking" <hosking@cs.purdue.edu><br>Fecha: jueves, 14 de julio, 2011 14:48<br><br><div id="yiv2127110143"><font face="courier new,monospace">I'm not sure that the message posted by Daniel, is in any way related to the OP.<br></font><div><font class="yiv2127110143Apple-style-span" face="'courier new',
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<div><font class="yiv2127110143Apple-style-span" face="'courier new', monospace">perhaps I'm too dumb?</font></div><div><font class="yiv2127110143Apple-style-span" face="'courier new', monospace"><br></font></div><div><font class="yiv2127110143Apple-style-span" face="'courier new', monospace"><br>
</font><div class="yiv2127110143gmail_quote">On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 2:44 PM, Daniel Alejandro Benavides D. <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:dabenavidesd@yahoo.es" target="_blank" href="/mc/compose?to=dabenavidesd@yahoo.es">dabenavidesd@yahoo.es</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="yiv2127110143gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td style="font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant: inherit; font-weight: inherit; font-size: inherit; line-height: inherit; font-size-adjust: inherit; font-stretch: inherit;" valign="top">Hi all:<br>This is to say why threads behaved seamengly for so many years in that fashion (apart of Win32, but as far as I know cygwin doesn't know cvsup, and if so how could one implement Unix API without using same NT thread support or at most would get the same old behaviour if so) but ALPHA_OSF, which John Polstra wrote needed the @M3nopreemption RTParams, I wonder why that's.<br>
Anyway, thus the only working-well behaved platform is that only and how one could run someone else. Perhaps reworking the SPIN threads to target everything else (if is enough layered we can somehow think that but would of course need their sources support besides figuring out how to build them) the other way would be Alphas hardware like for NIC, routers, etc (Jay's collection might have some data on that). I know for something the virtual terminals are in another business
company, but all net-ware I don't where's about wherever that is, although I remember something about Gigabit ATM servers software that they used to run and develop algorithms of Charles Tacker. <br>Thanks in advance<br>
<br><br>--- El <b>jue, 14/7/11, Daniel Alejandro Benavides D. <i><<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:dabenavidesd@yahoo.es" target="_blank" href="/mc/compose?to=dabenavidesd@yahoo.es">dabenavidesd@yahoo.es</a>></i></b> escribió:<br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;">
<br>De: Daniel Alejandro Benavides D. <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:dabenavidesd@yahoo.es" target="_blank" href="/mc/compose?to=dabenavidesd@yahoo.es">dabenavidesd@yahoo.es</a>><br>Asunto: Re: [M3devel] Fwd: Output from "cron" command<br>Para: "m3devel developers" <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:m3devel@elegosoft.com" target="_blank" href="/mc/compose?to=m3devel@elegosoft.com">m3devel@elegosoft.com</a>>, "Tony Hosking" <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:hosking@cs.purdue.edu" target="_blank" href="/mc/compose?to=hosking@cs.purdue.edu">hosking@cs.purdue.edu</a>><br>
Fecha: jueves, 14 de julio, 2011 11:41<br><br><div><table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td style="font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-variant: inherit; font-weight: inherit; font-size: inherit; line-height: inherit; font-size-adjust: inherit; font-stretch: inherit;" valign="top">
Hi all:<br>I don't know but I haven't tried the cvsup since I was hit by other problems (such as recompiling DEC-SRC sources like user space threads but was able before because are broken, meaning I can't afford the loosely compatibility and don't want apply to lose the system so quickly).<br>
I would like the path to an approach for solving this issues before going forward.<br><br>test@fbd-desktop:~/cm3$ ../bin/cvsup cvsup.cm3<br>Name lookup failure for "<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://modula3.elegosoft.com">modula3.elegosoft.com</a>": Host name lookup failed<br>
Will retry at 11:40:54<br><br><br>--- El <b>jue, 14/7/11, Tony Hosking <i><<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:hosking@cs.purdue.edu" target="_blank" href="/mc/compose?to=hosking@cs.purdue.edu">hosking@cs.purdue.edu</a>></i></b> escribió:<br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;">
<br>De: Tony Hosking <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:hosking@cs.purdue.edu" target="_blank" href="/mc/compose?to=hosking@cs.purdue.edu">hosking@cs.purdue.edu</a>><br>Asunto: [M3devel] Fwd: Output from "cron" command<br>Para: "m3devel developers"
<<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:m3devel@elegosoft.com" target="_blank" href="/mc/compose?to=m3devel@elegosoft.com">m3devel@elegosoft.com</a>><br>Fecha: jueves, 14 de julio, 2011 08:38<br><br><div>Issues with the server?<br>
<div><br><div>Begin forwarded message:</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div style="margin: 0px;"><span style="font-size: medium;"><b>From: </b></span><span style="font-size: medium;">Tony Hosking <<a rel="nofollow">hosking@cs.purdue.edu</a>><br>
</span></div><div style="margin: 0px;"><span style="font-size: medium;"><b>Date: </b></span><span style="font-size: medium;">July 14, 2011 8:17:22 AM EDT<br></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0px;"><span style="font-size: medium;"><b>To: </b></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><a rel="nofollow">hosking@cs.purdue.edu</a><br></span></div>
<div style="margin: 0px;"><span style="font-size: medium;"><b>Subject: </b></span><span style="font-size: medium;"><b>Output from "cron" command</b><br>
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<br><div>Your "cron" job on <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://niagara.cs.purdue.edu">niagara.cs.purdue.edu</a><br>$HOME/cm3/scripts/regression/cron.sh<br><br>produced the following output:<br><br>GMAKE=gmake<br>
export GMAKE<br>TAR=gtar<br>export
TAR<br>TESTHOSTNAME=niagara<br>WS=/homes/hosking/work/cm3-ws/niagara-2011-07-10-10-30-03<br>LASTREL=5.8.6<br>INSTROOT_REL=/homes/hosking/work/cm3-inst/niagara/rel-5.8.6<br>INSTROOT_POK=/homes/hosking/work/cm3-inst/niagara/prev-ok<br>
INSTROOT_LOK=/homes/hosking/work/cm3-inst/niagara/last-ok<br>INSTROOT_CUR=/homes/hosking/work/cm3-inst/niagara/current<br>CM3_OSTYPE=POSIX<br>CM3_TARGET=SOLgnu<br>BINDISTMIN=/homes/hosking/work/cm3-bin-min-SOLgnu-5.8.6.tgz<br>
CM3CVSSERVER=<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://birch.elegosoft.com">birch.elegosoft.com</a><br>CM3CVSROOT=birch.elegosoft.com:/usr/cvs<br>BINDISTMIN_NAME=cm3-bin-min-SOLgnu-5.8.6.tgz<br>BINDISTMIN=/homes/hosking/work/cm3-bin-min-SOLgnu-5.8.6.tgz<br>
CM3CVSUSER=<br>testing ssh <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://birch.elegosoft.com">birch.elegosoft.com</a>...<br>ssh <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://birch.elegosoft.com">birch.elegosoft.com</a> ok<br>
Building cm3.<br>Tinderbox Tree: "cm3"<br>Buildname:
"SOLgnu SunOS 5.10 niagara release-build"<br><br>creating log file /tmp/build-cm3-20110710-063005-RRa4C1/log.txt<br><br>---<br><br>checkout, compile and test of cm3 ...<br>2011.07.10 06:30:05 -- checkout in progress.<br>
[start checkout 2011.07.10 06:30:08]<br>cd /tmp/build-cm3-20110710-063005-RRa4C1/build<br>cvs return value: 1<br>[end checkout 2011.07.13 16:56:51]<br>CHECKOUT_RETURN = 1<br>*** CHECKOUT FAILED<br>removing build tree /tmp/build-cm3-20110710-063005-RRa4C1 ...<br>
cleaning CM3 workspaces...<br>/homes/hosking/work/cm3-ws/niagara-*<br>cleanup_all_but_last_n<br>cleanup_all_but_last_n<br><br>cleaning regression test log files...<br>/homes/hosking/tmp/cm3/niagara/cm3-rlog-*<br>cleanup_all_but_last_n<br>
cleanup_all_but_last_n<br><br>cleaning m3test log
files...<br>/homes/hosking/tmp/cm3/niagara/m3tests-*.stdout<br>cleanup_all_but_last_n<br>cleanup_all_but_last_n<br><br>/homes/hosking/tmp/cm3/niagara/m3tests-*.stderr<br>cleanup_all_but_last_n<br>cleanup_all_but_last_n<br>
<br>/homes/hosking/tmp/cm3/niagara/m3tests-*.stderr.extract<br>cleanup_all_but_last_n<br>cleanup_all_but_last_n<br><br>cleaning snapshot files...<br>/homes/hosking/tmp/cm3/niagara/cm3-min-POSIX-SOLgnu-*-*.tgz<br>cleanup_all_but_last_n<br>
cleanup_all_but_last_n<br><br>cleaning package reports...<br>/tmp/cm3-pkg-report-SOLgnu-*.html<br>cleanup_all_but_last_n<br>cleanup_all_but_last_n<br><br>done with cleanup_all<br>GMAKE=gmake<br>export GMAKE<br>TAR=gtar<br>
export
TAR<br>TESTHOSTNAME=niagara<br>WS=/homes/hosking/work/cm3-ws/niagara-2011-07-13-20-56-57<br>LASTREL=5.8.6<br>INSTROOT_REL=/homes/hosking/work/cm3-inst/niagara/rel-5.8.6<br>INSTROOT_POK=/homes/hosking/work/cm3-inst/niagara/prev-ok<br>
INSTROOT_LOK=/homes/hosking/work/cm3-inst/niagara/last-ok<br>INSTROOT_CUR=/homes/hosking/work/cm3-inst/niagara/current<br>CM3_OSTYPE=POSIX<br>CM3_TARGET=SOLgnu<br>BINDISTMIN=/homes/hosking/work/cm3-bin-min-SOLgnu-5.8.6.tgz<br>
CM3CVSSERVER=<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://birch.elegosoft.com">birch.elegosoft.com</a><br>CM3CVSROOT=birch.elegosoft.com:/usr/cvs<br>BINDISTMIN_NAME=cm3-bin-min-SOLgnu-5.8.6.tgz<br>BINDISTMIN=/homes/hosking/work/cm3-bin-min-SOLgnu-5.8.6.tgz<br>
CM3CVSUSER=<br>testing ssh <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://birch.elegosoft.com">birch.elegosoft.com</a>...<br>ssh <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://birch.elegosoft.com">birch.elegosoft.com</a> ok<br>
Building cm3.<br>Tinderbox Tree: "cm3"<br>Buildname:
"SOLgnu SunOS 5.10 niagara lastok-build"<br><br>creating log file /tmp/build-cm3-20110713-165659-qeaGbN/log.txt<br><br>---<br><br>checkout, compile and test of cm3 ...<br>2011.07.13 16:56:59 -- checkout in progress.<br>
[start checkout 2011.07.13 16:57:02]<br>cd /tmp/build-cm3-20110713-165659-qeaGbN/build<br>cvs return value: 1<br>[end checkout 2011.07.14 08:17:06]<br>CHECKOUT_RETURN = 1<br>*** CHECKOUT FAILED<br>removing build tree /tmp/build-cm3-20110713-165659-qeaGbN ...<br>
cleaning CM3 workspaces...<br>/homes/hosking/work/cm3-ws/niagara-*<br>cleanup_all_but_last_n<br>cleanup_all_but_last_n /homes/hosking/work/cm3-ws/niagara-2011-07-12-14-46-51<br><br>cleaning regression test log files...<br>
/homes/hosking/tmp/cm3/niagara/cm3-rlog-*<br>cleanup_all_but_last_n<br>cleanup_all_but_last_n<br><br>cleaning m3test log
files...<br>/homes/hosking/tmp/cm3/niagara/m3tests-*.stdout<br>cleanup_all_but_last_n<br>cleanup_all_but_last_n<br><br>/homes/hosking/tmp/cm3/niagara/m3tests-*.stderr<br>cleanup_all_but_last_n<br>cleanup_all_but_last_n<br>
<br>/homes/hosking/tmp/cm3/niagara/m3tests-*.stderr.extract<br>cleanup_all_but_last_n<br>cleanup_all_but_last_n<br><br>cleaning snapshot files...<br>/homes/hosking/tmp/cm3/niagara/cm3-min-POSIX-SOLgnu-*-*.tgz<br>cleanup_all_but_last_n<br>
cleanup_all_but_last_n<br><br>cleaning package reports...<br>/tmp/cm3-pkg-report-SOLgnu-*.html<br>cleanup_all_but_last_n<br>cleanup_all_but_last_n<br><br>done with cleanup_all<br></div></blockquote></div><br></div></blockquote>
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