<table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0" ><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;">Hi all:<br>among others motivations was to build a Educational Standard Workstation for High schools in the European Educational Standard:<br>http://books.google.com.co/books?id=RYH7o-4ykmMC&lpg=PA22&ots=n9hP3BGn6Z&dq=european%20educational%20standard%20acorn%20olivetti&pg=PA22#v=onepage&q&f=false<br><br>But Olivetti ported it to the Olivetti PC, so how can you say why they wanted to do that way the WS?<br>The things have changed IA32-AMD64 is severely threatened by the ARM ecosystem, and guess what all of their development tools (Simulators, and some other standards by Acorn) are based originals of Acorn.<br><br>Thanks in advance<br><br>--- El <b>mar, 13/12/11, felipe valdez <i><dataf4l@gmail.com></i></b> escribió:<br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"><br>De: felipe
valdez <dataf4l@gmail.com><br>Asunto: Re: [M3devel] Yet Another OS in Modula-3, AVOCA, in x-kernel<br>Para: "Daniel Alejandro Benavides D." <dabenavidesd@yahoo.es><br>Fecha: martes, 13 de diciembre, 2011 12:14<br><br><div id="yiv621439549"><font face="courier new,monospace"><br></font><br><div class="yiv621439549gmail_quote">On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 9:38 AM, Daniel Alejandro Benavides D. <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:dabenavidesd@yahoo.es" target="_blank" href="/mc/compose?to=dabenavidesd@yahoo.es">dabenavidesd@yahoo.es</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="yiv621439549gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Hi all:<br>
But let yet one more time me to say we already the best OS in 80's:<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>unix?</div><div><br></div><div><span class="yiv621439549Apple-style-span" style="color: rgb(51, 51, 51); font-family: Georgia; font-size: 14px; line-height: 19px; background-color: rgb(238, 238, 233);">oh!, Acorn (never heard of it)</span></div>
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"say we already the best OS in 80's:" => I think you miss the verb there"</div><div><br></div><blockquote class="yiv621439549gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.therealcompany.com/?pg=2">http://www.therealcompany.com/?pg=2</a><br>
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And if we care about that thuis thing changes everything, most of this guys ended up in SUN among other companies,</blockquote><div><br></div><div>and Acorn is better than the SUN workstations of its time.. because...?</div>
<div> </div><blockquote class="yiv621439549gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> I know they worked hard in specification of the OS API, </blockquote><div> </div><blockquote class="yiv621439549gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
so I bet you could to</blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>I bet anyone could.</div><div><br></div><div>but why would they?</div><div>what is the motivation?</div><div>the business model?</div><div> </div><blockquote class="yiv621439549gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
equal other MicroKernel projects, again if you add up both things the best OS in 80's the best Programming Language in the 1990's and something else yet to be written.<br></blockquote><div> </div><blockquote class="yiv621439549gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Thanks in advance<br>
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--- El jue, 8/12/11, Daniel Alejandro Benavides D. <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:dabenavidesd@yahoo.es" target="_blank" href="/mc/compose?to=dabenavidesd@yahoo.es">dabenavidesd@yahoo.es</a>> escribió:<br>
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> De: Daniel Alejandro Benavides D. <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:dabenavidesd@yahoo.es" target="_blank" href="/mc/compose?to=dabenavidesd@yahoo.es">dabenavidesd@yahoo.es</a>><br>
</div><div class="yiv621439549im">> Asunto: Re: [M3devel] Yet Another OS in Modula-3, AVOCA, in x-kernel<br>
</div>> Para: <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:m3devel@elegosoft.com" target="_blank" href="/mc/compose?to=m3devel@elegosoft.com">m3devel@elegosoft.com</a>, "Dariusz Knociński" <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:dknoto@next.com.pl" target="_blank" href="/mc/compose?to=dknoto@next.com.pl">dknoto@next.com.pl</a>><br>
> Fecha: jueves, 8 de diciembre, 2011 07:47<br>
<div class="yiv621439549HOEnZb"><div class="yiv621439549h5">> Hi all:<br>
> then if one is able to recode the existing Modular kernels,<br>
> in one framework, there is possibility that you can build in<br>
> the language of your preference, Modula-3 and now Java 7<br>
> with Jigsaw framework:<br>
> <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.cs.utah.edu/flux/papers/banavar-thesis.ps.gz">http://www.cs.utah.edu/flux/papers/banavar-thesis.ps.gz</a><br>
><br>
> called Etyma<br>
> and a kind of application for C++:<br>
> <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.cs.utah.edu/dept/techreports/docs/ncstrl.utah_cs/UUCS-93-006/UUCS-93-006.pdf">http://www.cs.utah.edu/dept/techreports/docs/ncstrl.utah_cs/UUCS-93-006/UUCS-93-006.pdf</a><br>
><br>
> Anyway, to have a outside use of this, would be nice to<br>
> replace everything by Modula-3 code like:<br>
> <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="ftp://asg3.andrew.cmu.edu/pub/AUIS/PAPERS/conf/1992/Orgass.ps">ftp://asg3.andrew.cmu.edu/pub/AUIS/PAPERS/conf/1992/Orgass.ps</a><br>
><br>
> Thanks in advance<br>
><br>
> --- El jue, 8/12/11, Dariusz Knociński <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:dknoto@next.com.pl" target="_blank" href="/mc/compose?to=dknoto@next.com.pl">dknoto@next.com.pl</a>><br>
> escribió:<br>
><br>
> > De: Dariusz Knociński <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:dknoto@next.com.pl" target="_blank" href="/mc/compose?to=dknoto@next.com.pl">dknoto@next.com.pl</a>><br>
> > Asunto: Re: [M3devel] Yet Another OS in Modula-3,<br>
> AVOCA, in x-kernel<br>
> > Para: <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:m3devel@elegosoft.com" target="_blank" href="/mc/compose?to=m3devel@elegosoft.com">m3devel@elegosoft.com</a><br>
> > Fecha: jueves, 8 de diciembre, 2011 01:55<br>
> > On Wed, 7 Dec 2011 17:04:55 -0800<br>
> > Jay <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:jay.krell@cornell.edu" target="_blank" href="/mc/compose?to=jay.krell@cornell.edu">jay.krell@cornell.edu</a>><br>
> > wrote:<br>
> ><br>
> > > Interesting project: port libm3core to NT or<br>
> Linux<br>
> > kernel, so drivers for those systems can be written<br>
> in<br>
> > Modula-3. Then show how it is both safe &<br>
> efficient<br>
> > & portable.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > But better yet is to provide for user mode<br>
> drivers..<br>
> > ><br>
> > What do you think about project L4? This is<br>
> small<br>
> > efficient microkernel written<br>
> > in C++. I think, that in one year it can by rewrite<br>
> to<br>
> > Modula-3. All drivers can<br>
> > be run in user space.<br>
> ><br>
> > DKnoto.<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
><br>
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