<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Right and simple are two faces of that coin.<div><br></div><div>Every long walk has its first step.</div><div><br></div><div>And so on :).</div><div><div><br></div><div><div apple-content-edited="true">
<span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div>--</div><div>Divided by a common language</div><div><br></div><div>Dragiša Durić</div><div><a href="mailto:dragisha@m3w.org">dragisha@m3w.org</a></div><div><br></div></div></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></span><br class="Apple-interchange-newline">
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<br><div><div>On Aug 25, 2012, at 11:55 PM, Mika Nystrom wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div>=?utf-8?Q?Dragi=C5=A1a_Duri=C4=87?= writes:<br><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">--Apple-Mail=_556D4F87-7FB1-46B0-B230-8D253F9EF1B5<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Content-Type: multipart/alternative;<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>boundary="Apple-Mail=_1902AEBB-876B-49B9-8A8F-13F98C1F82AC"<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">--Apple-Mail=_1902AEBB-876B-49B9-8A8F-13F98C1F82AC<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Content-Type: text/plain;<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>charset=windows-1250<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">I am in no doubt about general inadequacies of C et al=85<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">What I hate is an idea of setters and getters for my bitfields. With =<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">pragma, compiler generated load/store will behave as needed. Everything =<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">transparent and just-working.<br></blockquote><br>Until you have some data that is PDP-endian :-)<br><br>Or want to split a field across a boundary that you're not supposed to<br>be able to split a field across.<br><br>Or have a field that's semantically scattered/gathered.<br><br>Can your proposed scheme represent IEEE floating point? <br><br>I agree it is a very useful idea, I agree it has to be done "right".<br>But my definition of doing it "right" would be so demanding you'd be<br>crazy to do it in the compiler....<br><br> Mika<br><br><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">--<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Divided by a common language<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Dragi=9Aa Duri=E6<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><a href="mailto:dragisha@m3w.org">dragisha@m3w.org</a><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></div></blockquote></div><br></div></div></body></html>