<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div>It's not a realtime system, so that's not a problem. Have a look at my reply to Jay you'll see a fuller description of what I have in mind.</div><div><br></div><br><div><div>On Jan 4, 2013, at 10:46 AM, Daniel Alejandro Benavides D. wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" border="0"><tbody><tr><td valign="top" style="font: inherit;">Hi all:<br>I think you just need runtime executive on top a machine would be enough.<br>For instance VAXELN. <br>Problem is you would need realtime core services at the language level (somehow SPIN services with no protection overhead caused by language).<br>Memory managament. and threading are core services in VAXELN as part of system, just need bindings for each language.<br>I guess you need and advanced distributed realtime system. Such was VMS 5 for rtVAX9000:<br><a href="http://books.google.com.co/books?id=TzUXAQAAMAAJ&dq=">http://books.google.com.co/books?id=TzUXAQAAMAAJ&dq=</a>"%2C+in+conjunction+with+VMS.+VAXELN%2C+which+provides+optimal+performance+for"&q="+which+provides+optimal+performance+for"#search_anchor<br><br>My hypothesis is that you can't bring up a realtime application in an embedded device like you want.<br>I know of realtime OS in Modula-3, there must be several ones I guess, based on what I
have researched but you can not trust whether they are embedded, that's the problem.<br>Thanks in advance<br><br><br>--- El <b>vie, 4/1/13, Darko <i><<a href="mailto:darko@darko.org">darko@darko.org</a>></i></b> escribió:<br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"><br>De: Darko <<a href="mailto:darko@darko.org">darko@darko.org</a>><br>Asunto: [M3devel] Bare Metal Modula-3<br>Para: "m3devel developers" <<a href="mailto:m3devel@elegosoft.com">m3devel@elegosoft.com</a>><br>Fecha: viernes, 4 de enero, 2013 04:16<br><br><div class="plainMail">I'm interested in deploying M3 into a kind-of embedded environment where efficiency and performance are key and I want to avoid installing an OS beyond a simple supervisor that manages the hardware. <br><br>The services needed are threading, memory allocation and network access. I'm figuring the first two already exist in M3 and a network stack can be found.<br><br>The question I have is can all of the OS specific runtime can be removed? Beyond maybe a timer
and possibly some memory protection functionality, what does M3 need to run threading and garbage collection?<br><br>- Darko<br><br></div></blockquote></td></tr></tbody></table></blockquote></div><br></body></html>