<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;">AFAIK, automake/autoconf is big pain… of C world. Whole build systems were devised/built, just to bypass autowhatever.<div><br></div><div>I don’t see any reason to envy current C build systems. But, if you are looking for a model, then also look at Maven/Gradle of Java world. Convention over configuration paradigm (very accepted, and which looks very much like cm3 config + m3makefile ) is so far away from autowhatever as possible. <br><div apple-content-edited="true">
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<br><div><div>On 13 Nov 2013, at 18:11, Jay <<a href="mailto:jay.krell@cornell.edu">jay.krell@cornell.edu</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div style="font-family: Constantia; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;">I do repeatedly wonder if we should be a thin layer over automake/autoconf/pkg-config/libtool. I look into them every so often. What bugs me, maybe not pkg-config, is that they seem slow and have to generate files. I want something that usually makes fast decisions for every run. Optionally recording them in a file for bootstrapping or overridability. Cm3 was ahead of its time, kinda, but those tools solve much of the same problem, with other people maintaining them and more "dynamism"/"manifestation" -- I can't think of the word, but throw together a random posixish platform and autoconf can probe it and piece it together. There is no need to record static platform definitions and local configuration details are inferred/deduced at build-time, and there is good cross build support.</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"></blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>