<div>Hi!</div><div><br /></div><div>(</div><div><br /></div><div> ReactOs is very modern system.</div><div>But it now reproduce "Windows Server 2003" level of drivers, OS kernel, *.dll etc.</div><div><br /></div><div>)</div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div><div>> ( save possibility) <span style="font-family:'calibri' , 'helvetica' , sans-serif;font-size:12pt">have to run Modula3 binaries</span></div><div><br /></div><div> Yes: cross compilation may be a solution of problem.</div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div><div>> <span style="font-family:'calibri' , 'helvetica' , sans-serif;font-size:12pt">These were very good releases</span></div><div><br /></div><div> I'm not shue... May be it's CM3 5.8.6, but it hasn't x64 support.</div><div><br /></div><div>And don't forget about "solarite.exe problem".</div><div><br /></div><div>> <span style="font-family:'calibri' , 'helvetica' , sans-serif;font-size:12pt">We could leave the code with compile time or runtime conditionals</span></div><div><span style="font-family:'calibri' , 'helvetica' , sans-serif;font-size:12pt"><br /></span></div><div><span style="font-family:'calibri' , 'helvetica' , sans-serif;font-size:12pt"> About ReactOs itself ( except common OpenNT / MS Windows Research Kernel, etc source code):</span></div><div><span style="font-family:'calibri' , 'helvetica' , sans-serif;font-size:12pt"> today ReactOs developers use relative modern MS Visual Studio "C/C++ language" compiler or MinGW.</span></div><div><span style="font-family:'calibri' , 'helvetica' , sans-serif;font-size:12pt"><br /></span></div><div><span style="font-family:'calibri' , 'helvetica' , sans-serif;font-size:12pt"> I try search in documents what version of cl.exe used, etc.</span></div><div><br /></div><div><br /></div><div>Best regards, Victor Miasnikov</div><div><br /></div><div>19.03.2021, 22:48, "Jay K" <jayk123@hotmail.com>:</div><blockquote><div dir="ltr">
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Ah, and you have to run Modula3 binaries on these same very old systems? </div>
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These were very good releases but it is probably long past time to move on.</div>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: Continue support of Windows Server 2003 ( a-ka "NT52") and ReactOs Re: [M3devel] supporting old systems and tools</font>
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<div> It's firewall and web-proxy.</div>
<div>It's contain driver. I.e. must be installed exactly on Win Srv 2003.</div>
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<div> OSFP is routing protocol.</div>
<div>OSPF doesn't work on Win Srv 2008 R2 with another MS firewall ( TMG Server), but works on 2003+ISA.</div>
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<div> All this about "real world".</div>
<div>Youre theory simply isn't true, becase there exist many even more exotic software that MS firewalls.</div>
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<div>19.03.2021, 20:02, "Jay K" <<a href="mailto:jayk123@hotmail.com" target="_blank">jayk123@hotmail.com</a>>:</div>
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You don't need 32bit Server to run 32bit stuff and I don't understand "<span style="background-color:rgb( 255 , 255 , 255 );display:inline !important;font-size:14px">MS ISA Server 2006 with OSPF routing."</span></div>
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<span style="background-color:rgb( 255 , 255 , 255 );display:inline !important;font-size:14px">Very little software under active development runs pre-Vista or pre-Windows7.</span></div>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: Continue support of Windows Server 2003 ( a-ka "NT52") and ReactOs Re: [M3devel] supporting old systems and tools</font>
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<div> ReactOs is "free Windows". This project doesn't related with Microsoft corporation.</div>
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<div> Today ReactOs is comptible with Windows Server 2003.</div>
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<div>Yes, ReactOs works.</div>
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<div> It haven't another advantage.</div>
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<div>Main advantage of Windows Server 2003 is possiblity to running MS ISA Server 2006 with OSPF routing.</div>
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<div>M.a-ge Windows Server 2008 R2 is p-ty to r-ing MS TMG Server and IAG.</div>
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Vista is "much better" than Server 2003, because of declspec(thread) and condition variables.</div>
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But ok for a bit longer I suppose.</div>
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I don't think Visual C++ compiler runs on it either, but you can still build your binaries elsewhere.<br />
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Even Windows 7 is going out of support, e.g. from Python.</div>
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Many other projects only go down to Windows 7, like Chrome and CoreCLR.</div>
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<b>To:</b> Jay K <<a href="mailto:jayk123@hotmail.com" target="_blank">jayk123@hotmail.com</a>>;
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<b>Subject:</b> Continue support of Windows Server 2003 ( a-ka "NT52") and ReactOs Re: [M3devel] supporting old systems and tools</font>
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<div>Please, if it's possible, continue support of Windows Server 2003 ( a-ka "NT52").<br />
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<div>19.03.2021, 13:40, "Jay K" <<a href="mailto:jayk123@hotmail.com" target="_blank">jayk123@hotmail.com</a>>:</div>
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I have through time introduced a lot of workarounds for old systems -- old C compilers, bootstrapping from old cm3, running on old OSes.</div>
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- Drop support for pre-Visual C++ 2008 (<a href="https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.microsoft.com%2Fen-us%2Fdownload%2Fdetails.aspx%3Fid%3D44266&data=04%7C01%7C%7C3c990a3edbae4daf6d6f08d8eb0caf13%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637517786995008409%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=aHDz6ZeNfSsF5SGm7CbrQ55ZaYDlAfXslgFgxCJKrxo%3D&reserved=0" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=44266</a>)</div>
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