From wagner at elegosoft.com Sat May 31 11:38:52 2014 From: wagner at elegosoft.com (Olaf Wagner) Date: Sat, 31 May 2014 11:38:52 +0200 Subject: [M3announce] CVS to GIT migration -- shutdown of elego's CVS services for M3 Message-ID: <20140531113852.22c6713299119e2be29bffcf@elegosoft.com> Hello all, with the possibility of the CM3 project being hosted on Github, where it can be continued safely and with much more and better hardware resources than elego could ever provide, elego will stop providing the legacy CVS service for the source code as soon as possible. This does not mean that we will stop all of our support, and we certainly won't remove access to the sources before easy access to them at another provider is established. But we would like to urge all the developers to help with the migration and ensure that the use and development of Modula-3 will continue as seamlessly as possible. The WWW service can stay online some time longer, though I think all the stuff available there should be reviewed and moved to a Wiki with easy access for all the developers. 13 months ago I set up this Wiki page at the M3 Trac instance to allocate all the things that I thought should be done and considered, but nobody else has contributed to that, so that has probably not been the right approach: https://cm3-bugs.elegosoft.com/cm3/wiki/CvsToGitMigration However, I think a clean migration to git should be no big problem, and it should also improve the visibility and ease of use of the assets, so it will be all for the best of the project. Some personal notes: After the huge amount of time I spent in preparing, testing and bundling the last release of CM3 several years ago, I was not able to sustain any noticable contribution to the M3 development. Both private and business matters claimed so much attention that I was not able to provide the necessary time to even keep all the infrastructure -- WWW, scripts, CI etc. -- in proper and usable shape. And I'm afraid that this won't change soon, so there is no hope for much contribution from my side for the foreseeable future. I would dearly like to see the use of Modula-3 spread and the project prosper and thrive and I'll try to support this as much as I can. Embarrassing desasters like heartbleed could easily have been prevented by the use of Modula-3 or the application of the sound principles and techniques that are its base. I still believe that using a safe language for large projects should be a inevitable decision from an engineering point of view, but keeping the users and developers of M3 in a kind of enclave won't help in the large run. So please see my decision to discontinue the repository support as a friendly push to start moving in the right direction. Olaf -- Olaf Wagner -- elego Software Solutions GmbH -- http://www.elegosoft.com Gustav-Meyer-Allee 25 / Geb?ude 12, 13355 Berlin, Germany phone: +49 30 23 45 86 96 mobile: +49 177 2345 869 fax: +49 30 23 45 86 95 Gesch?ftsf?hrer: Michael Diers, Olaf Wagner | Sitz: Berlin Handelregister: Amtsgericht Charlottenburg HRB 77719 | USt-IdNr: DE163214194 From wagner at elegosoft.com Sat May 31 11:38:52 2014 From: wagner at elegosoft.com (Olaf Wagner) Date: Sat, 31 May 2014 11:38:52 +0200 Subject: [M3announce] CVS to GIT migration -- shutdown of elego's CVS services for M3 Message-ID: <20140531113852.22c6713299119e2be29bffcf@elegosoft.com> Hello all, with the possibility of the CM3 project being hosted on Github, where it can be continued safely and with much more and better hardware resources than elego could ever provide, elego will stop providing the legacy CVS service for the source code as soon as possible. This does not mean that we will stop all of our support, and we certainly won't remove access to the sources before easy access to them at another provider is established. But we would like to urge all the developers to help with the migration and ensure that the use and development of Modula-3 will continue as seamlessly as possible. The WWW service can stay online some time longer, though I think all the stuff available there should be reviewed and moved to a Wiki with easy access for all the developers. 13 months ago I set up this Wiki page at the M3 Trac instance to allocate all the things that I thought should be done and considered, but nobody else has contributed to that, so that has probably not been the right approach: https://cm3-bugs.elegosoft.com/cm3/wiki/CvsToGitMigration However, I think a clean migration to git should be no big problem, and it should also improve the visibility and ease of use of the assets, so it will be all for the best of the project. Some personal notes: After the huge amount of time I spent in preparing, testing and bundling the last release of CM3 several years ago, I was not able to sustain any noticable contribution to the M3 development. Both private and business matters claimed so much attention that I was not able to provide the necessary time to even keep all the infrastructure -- WWW, scripts, CI etc. -- in proper and usable shape. And I'm afraid that this won't change soon, so there is no hope for much contribution from my side for the foreseeable future. I would dearly like to see the use of Modula-3 spread and the project prosper and thrive and I'll try to support this as much as I can. Embarrassing desasters like heartbleed could easily have been prevented by the use of Modula-3 or the application of the sound principles and techniques that are its base. I still believe that using a safe language for large projects should be a inevitable decision from an engineering point of view, but keeping the users and developers of M3 in a kind of enclave won't help in the large run. So please see my decision to discontinue the repository support as a friendly push to start moving in the right direction. Olaf -- Olaf Wagner -- elego Software Solutions GmbH -- http://www.elegosoft.com Gustav-Meyer-Allee 25 / Geb?ude 12, 13355 Berlin, Germany phone: +49 30 23 45 86 96 mobile: +49 177 2345 869 fax: +49 30 23 45 86 95 Gesch?ftsf?hrer: Michael Diers, Olaf Wagner | Sitz: Berlin Handelregister: Amtsgericht Charlottenburg HRB 77719 | USt-IdNr: DE163214194 From wagner at elegosoft.com Sat May 31 11:38:52 2014 From: wagner at elegosoft.com (Olaf Wagner) Date: Sat, 31 May 2014 11:38:52 +0200 Subject: [M3announce] CVS to GIT migration -- shutdown of elego's CVS services for M3 Message-ID: <20140531113852.22c6713299119e2be29bffcf@elegosoft.com> Hello all, with the possibility of the CM3 project being hosted on Github, where it can be continued safely and with much more and better hardware resources than elego could ever provide, elego will stop providing the legacy CVS service for the source code as soon as possible. This does not mean that we will stop all of our support, and we certainly won't remove access to the sources before easy access to them at another provider is established. But we would like to urge all the developers to help with the migration and ensure that the use and development of Modula-3 will continue as seamlessly as possible. The WWW service can stay online some time longer, though I think all the stuff available there should be reviewed and moved to a Wiki with easy access for all the developers. 13 months ago I set up this Wiki page at the M3 Trac instance to allocate all the things that I thought should be done and considered, but nobody else has contributed to that, so that has probably not been the right approach: https://cm3-bugs.elegosoft.com/cm3/wiki/CvsToGitMigration However, I think a clean migration to git should be no big problem, and it should also improve the visibility and ease of use of the assets, so it will be all for the best of the project. Some personal notes: After the huge amount of time I spent in preparing, testing and bundling the last release of CM3 several years ago, I was not able to sustain any noticable contribution to the M3 development. Both private and business matters claimed so much attention that I was not able to provide the necessary time to even keep all the infrastructure -- WWW, scripts, CI etc. -- in proper and usable shape. And I'm afraid that this won't change soon, so there is no hope for much contribution from my side for the foreseeable future. I would dearly like to see the use of Modula-3 spread and the project prosper and thrive and I'll try to support this as much as I can. Embarrassing desasters like heartbleed could easily have been prevented by the use of Modula-3 or the application of the sound principles and techniques that are its base. I still believe that using a safe language for large projects should be a inevitable decision from an engineering point of view, but keeping the users and developers of M3 in a kind of enclave won't help in the large run. So please see my decision to discontinue the repository support as a friendly push to start moving in the right direction. Olaf -- Olaf Wagner -- elego Software Solutions GmbH -- http://www.elegosoft.com Gustav-Meyer-Allee 25 / Geb?ude 12, 13355 Berlin, Germany phone: +49 30 23 45 86 96 mobile: +49 177 2345 869 fax: +49 30 23 45 86 95 Gesch?ftsf?hrer: Michael Diers, Olaf Wagner | Sitz: Berlin Handelregister: Amtsgericht Charlottenburg HRB 77719 | USt-IdNr: DE163214194