[M3commit] CVS Update: cm3

Tony Hosking hosking at cs.purdue.edu
Wed Feb 10 18:47:13 CET 2010


On 10 Feb 2010, at 11:35, Jay K wrote:

> I was just trying to get longint initialization to work.
> It seemed some of its problems might have been related to the fact that you Extract more high order zeros from TInt.Zero than Target.Int{Target.Integer.bytes}. But in the end (just now) I left TWord.Extract alone.
> It remains true that EQ(TInt.Zero) has multiple representations and they don't act alike.

I don't understand what you mean by this statement.

>  Maybe that is desirable.
>  
>  - Jay
> 
>  
> From: hosking at cs.purdue.edu
> Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 10:13:31 -0500
> To: jay.krell at cornell.edu
> CC: m3commit at elegosoft.com
> Subject: Re: [M3commit] CVS Update: cm3
> 
> I'm not sure what you are trying to do or why.  Can you provide further explanation?
> 
> On 10 Feb 2010, at 04:47, Jay K wrote:
> 
> Shall I go ahead and let Extract act as if the data is infinitely zero extended?
> That seems easy to do. I don't know if it will fix the problems, or cause other problems.
> It is easy to try. The danger is if it causes subtle undetected-at-first-and-for-a-while problems.
>  
>  
>  - Jay
> 
>  
> From: hosking at cs.purdue.edu
> Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 11:36:31 -0500
> To: jay.krell at cornell.edu
> CC: m3commit at elegosoft.com
> Subject: Re: [M3commit] CVS Update: cm3
> 
> Yes, that is what I am now trying to clean up.
> 
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> On 8 Feb 2010, at 11:18, Jay K wrote:
> 
> Rodney I *think* generally mixed sizes are supported in TWord, TInt.
>   Though I don't necessarily understand all of the code.
> There was a problem recently fixed, granted.
> One problem here though is that you can't TWord.Extract beyond the size.
> So the varying sizes of "zero" behave differently.
> You might imagine it's zeros as far out as needed, but it doesn't work that way currently.
>  
>  - Jay
>  
> > Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 10:02:58 -0600
> > From: rodney_bates at lcwb.coop
> > To: m3commit at elegosoft.com
> > Subject: Re: [M3commit] CVS Update: cm3
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Jay K wrote:
> > > I wonder if we need
> > > TInt8, TInt16, TInt32, TInt64, TInt, TLong
> > > TWord8, TWord16, TWord32, TWord64, TWord, TLongWord
> > > 
> > > that accurately implement ints/words of the exact specified size,
> > > with TInt/TWord/TLong/TLongWord depending on the target.
> > > I wouldn't mind trying to remove this word "Word".
> > > And replace it with UInt or such.
> > > TInt, TUInt, TLong, TULong?
> > > TSignedInt, TUnsignedInt, TSignedLong, TUnsignedLong?
> > > TInt, TUnsignedInt, TLong, TUnsignedLong?
> > > 
> > > TInt.Zero is just always 8 bytes.
> > > The size is I believe meant to be fairly opaque to the user.
> > > This is the first I've noticed it being visible, such that TInt.EQ is 
> > > true for values with "quite different" behavior. I would have "thunk" 
> > > (thought without much thought) that anything TInt.EQ is more equivalent 
> > > than they actually are.
> > > 
> > 
> > Hmm. I recall in a discussion a while back that the arithmetic on
> > target ints was not coded to handle operands with mixed values of
> > n. Could this have something to do with this?
> > 
> > > 
> > > - Jay
> > > 
> > > 
> > >
> 
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