[M3devel] m3 CVS?

[hendrik at topoi.pooq.com]

On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 10:41:42PM +0000, Jay wrote:
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> Also, presumably you can copy the entire CVS repository with little CPU use and then do the monotone work locally. I doubt it is all that large, can tell you later.. (ssh in and du /usr/cvs)
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>  - Jay

OK.  What's the recommended way of copying the CVS repository?  
Downloading a .tgz file?  Or figuring out how to get cvsup up first?
(the more tools I have to build before I can test feasibility, the less 
likely I am to get there.  cvsup doesn't seem to be available in 
Debian; perhaps that's because Modula 3 isn't either)

I seem to have two ways to try to build the monotone repository.

(1) use monotone's rcs_imnport command

(2) use the cvs_sync branch, generate a new monotone from that branch, 
and see what it does.

I'd have to try both so see what's feasible.  Each seems to have
limitations.

rcs_import seems to want to have access to the cvs files instead of
network access to CVS.

-- hendrik


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> > Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 16:19:08 +0200
> > From: wagner at elegosoft.com
> > To: m3devel at elegosoft.com
> > CC: manderson at elego.de
> > Subject: Re: [M3devel] m3 CVS?
> > 
> > Quoting hendrik at topoi.pooq.com:
> > 
> > > On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 01:39:10PM +0200, Olaf Wagner wrote:
> > >> Quoting hendrik at topoi.pooq.com:
> > >>
> > >> >Is CVS back up yet? Completely? I've been delaying trying the
> > >> >monotone conversion because it would be nice to have only one set
> > >> >of problems to look into.
> > >>
> > >> CVS is up and no history should be lost, but tinderbox is still not
> > >> working and several archives are missing. Michael is working on it
> > >> (but he's got some other tasks, too).
> > >
> > > So the current source is available, but not the tools to investigate
> > > their status on-line. And the other archives? What are they? Are they
> > > more source code? Should they be subject to revision control too? Are
> > > they ancient prehistory that should be grafted into the revision tree
> > > except that it may not be technically feasible?
> > 
> > Mostly all the old installation archives and snapshots are still missing.
> > I'm not sure what's the status of the re-installation of tinderbox.
> > 
> > > Ah. I have too many questions.
> > >
> > > By the way, rumours are that monotone's cvs pull command is quite
> > > demanding on the cvs server, but that sync operation isn't bad at all
> > > after that. Getting really old versions of files requires CVS to chain
> > > back through a lot of reverse differences. And I don't know if it
> > > caches any of that in case it is asked to cough up another really old
> > > version.
> > >
> > > If there are any scheduling considerations I'd like to hear them. I
> > > don't know if I'll flatten your system, but if I do there are probably
> > > better and worse times to do it. (I may saturate ny DSL link first, but
> > > you never know until you try it.)
> > >
> > > By the way, what's the total size of Modula 3's CVS archive?
> > 
> > I've got no access from here (can only check later tonight); please
> > ask Michael Anderson directly for administrative topics.
> > 
> > Olaf
> > 
> > PS: I don't think you can bring the server down a one external CVS
> > client; the syncing will just take a long time. Unless lots of parallel
> > requests are started...
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