[M3devel] HEADS UP: Release engineering, was: Re: CM3 Release
Rodney M. Bates
rodney.m.bates at cox.net
Tue Apr 14 14:21:07 CEST 2009
Randy Coleburn wrote:
> Rodney, sorry but I haven't tried your changes. If your test program
> is available, I would be glad to compile and run it on Windows to
> obtain results for that platform. Just let me know how to
> obtain/install your TEXT changes and the test program.
It's in a branch named:
devel_m3core_text_newtext_branch
It's all part of m3core, which you have to rebuild and ship.
The test program source code is in m3-libs/m3core/tests/newtext/src of
the branch, along with
a README file.
>
> I am ok with Olaf's suggestion of starting the release process in May.
>
> Again, I will be glad to help on Windows platforms. If necessary, I
> can also test cygwin on Windows.
>
> If we need to test/build/release on HPUX, I have an old v10 system I
> can pull out of storage (note that v10 is an older version of HPUX and
> not current).
>
> Regards,
> Randy Coleburn
>
> >>> "Rodney M. Bates" <rodney.m.bates at cox.net> 4/13/2009 5:24 PM >>>
> Any opinions about the TEXT branch? Anybody tried it? To summarize:
>
> - I have tested it extensively on LINUXLIBC6, with a large random
> test program and two successive rebuilds of CM3.
>
> - It makes no changes in data structure, neither to static declarations
> nor to invariants. Thus it creates no compatibility problems with
> existing
> pickles, etc.
>
> - It slows down concatenation, but more than makes it up in other
> string accessing operations, if the numbers of concatenations and
> accessing operations are equal.
>
> - It cuts down on tree depth and even more or recursion depth
> (which implies needed stack space.)
>
> - This effect is dramatic when strings are built by "linear"
> concatenations,
> i.e., strictly left-to-right, or vice versa. Gains are moderate when
> concatenations are random.
>
> - It allocates a lot more storage, but abandons a lot more garbage,
> retaining somewhat more space when lots of old strings are retained
> along with newly-built ones. It probably retains less when operand
> strings of concatenations are not kept, but I haven't measured that.
>
> - Strategies are partial rebalancing of concatenation trees, flattening
> of short concatenations, elimination of a lot of tail-recursion, and
> recursing on the shorter side.
>
>
>
> Olaf Wagner wrote:
> > Well, that's a quite long list; but many things are bug fixes anyway,
> > and wouldn't be affected by a code freeze, while others are already
> > finished (as integrating CVSup, as I understand).
> >
> > The only thing we should not do is introduce new platforms while
> > trying to get the system stable. We should concentrate on installation
> > support and bug fixing.
> >
> > I'd suggest to start the release process in about two weeks at the
> > start of May. That should give everybody enough time to either finish
> > their ongoing work that shall make it into the release or decide to
> > postpone it ;-)
> >
> > Any objections?
> >
> > Olaf
> >
> > Quoting Jay <jay.krell at cornell.edu>:
> >
> >>
> >> > > o When should we start? I.e. wha changes would you like to
> complete
> >> > > before we start the release process?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I'd like to see the formsvbt crash debugged and fixed, unless I'm
> >> the only one seeing it.
> >>
> >> I only see it on Solaris and PPC_DARWIN but haven't tried
> "everything".
> >>
> >> I'll try to get this.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I'd also like to see:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> FreeBSD/x86 switched to the new Unix/*.i3 files. I'll do this.
> >>
> >> Maybe also I386_DARWIN, AMD64_DARWIN, but I don't have the
> hardware.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> $ORIGIN/LD_LIBRARY_PATH resolved a bit further, probably very
> >> little work (I'll do this).
> >>
> >> Basically just 1) put buildlocal back how it was 2) push it across
> >> more platforms e.g. I think FreeBSD/x86 is the main one missing,
> >> but I'll get to it.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> cvsup building and in "std" (I'll do this, probably very little
> >> left here really.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -- beyond this, not required for release --
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Maybe more AMD64 releases, e.g. NetBSD and Solaris. (If I get to it).
> >>
> >> (could be "mingw64" is good enough to try AMD64_NT now).
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Maybe update gmp/mpfr to fix the "maintainer" problem. (not likely
> >> by me)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Maybe more new/resuscitated platforms..HPPA64_HPUX, IA64_*, *_VMS,
> >> ALPHA_*, ARM_*, *_IRIX, *_AIX, MIPS64_*.... but these take back
> >> seat to important fixes in existing platforms.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Fix NT386 to use setjmp3 instead of setjmp so exceptions don't
> >> skip C __finally blocks. I've just been very lazy here, should
> >> demonstrate the behavior with a test case, then fix it..
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Maybe fix cm3cg so other -g options besides -gstabs works, like
> >> plain -g, -ggdb, on at least one platform -gstabs isn't supported,
> >> leaving nothing, because others cause internal compiler errors, like
> >> on HPPA64_HPUX.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Oh, and NT386GNU probably switched back to Win32 threads.
> >> Otherwise one of the test cases hangs and it doesn't look easy to
> >> figure out. I'll do this shortly if I remember.
> >>
> >> But I also wouldn't mind if this platform isn't officially released
> >> either (unless someone else wants to support it).
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Debug why many NT386MINGNU gui apps crash..but also probably just
> >> don't release this platform and ok asis.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> - Jay
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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