[M3devel] INTEGER
Tony Hosking
hosking at cs.purdue.edu
Thu Apr 22 20:36:17 CEST 2010
Let me see.
The green book definition says the base type of a subrange of INTEGER literals is INTEGER.
You say that the base type of a subrange of LONGINT literals is LONGINT.
But you say that LONGINT is not a defined type. So, what is the type of a LONGINT literal?
...
[I think I misunderstood you previously. I had interpreted that you meant LONGINT subranges to have base type INTEGER.]
On 22 Apr 2010, at 08:38, hendrik at topoi.pooq.com wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 11:57:16AM -0400, Tony Hosking wrote:
>> But this is bizarre. What type does an element of a subrange of
>> LONGINT have if not LONGINT?
>
> It has LONGINT as a type.
>
>> If the subrange has a base type of INTEGER then we need a mapping
>> between the elements of the subrange and the base INTEGER values.
>
> Yes. And INTEGER is different from the notion mathematicians have of
> integers in that there is a limit on the size of integers. It's a
> machine or implementation-dependent limit, and it's imposed for
> efficiency reasons, but it's a specific limit just the same.
> This limit is precisely what we're up against.
>
>> But then, values of the LONGINT subrange don't have the same
>> representation as their INTEGER counterpart.
>
> Of course not. If they did have the same representation, there would be
> in-range for INTEGERs, and there would be no need to have LONGINT at
> all.
>
> LONGINT is there precisely for the integers that *don't* fit in INTEGER.
>
>>
>> All very odd.
>
> But dictated by the intended use -- that of having integral ranges
> whose bounds are dictated by the problem, not the hardware.
>
> -- hendrik
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