[M3devel] Yet Another OS in Modula-3, AVOCA, in x-kernel

[Daniel Alejandro Benavides D.]

Hi all:
I give you own example of it:
http://blip.tv/the-rotor-show/video-mail-retrieval-demo-133495

http://web.archive.org/web/19970225153813/http://www.orl.co.uk/abstracts.html

http://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathangibbons

I guess is the same question for where are the video tutorials, well there they are.

And still you are asking why it hasn't been marketed? Look what Software crisis is, and what does that mean practically, what one needs to do to be finished (Tip see Japanese 5th generation of computers).

But let's start thinking how can you put a class room of Modula-like systems in the video browser. From a bunch of about 6 millions lines of code. That's why I always think in Mentor aid material

Thanks in advance



--- El mar, 13/12/11, Daniel Alejandro Benavides D. <dabenavidesd at yahoo.es> escribió:

De: Daniel Alejandro Benavides D. <dabenavidesd at yahoo.es>
Asunto: Re: [M3devel] Yet Another OS in Modula-3, AVOCA, in x-kernel
Para: "felipe valdez" <dataf4l at gmail.com>
CC: m3devel at elegosoft.com
Fecha: martes, 13 de diciembre, 2011 16:54

Hi all:
I meant that wherever you had that OS, either Acorn, Olivetti was the nest of the best programming language ever (well let's say for its time having in account that they planned it to be ten years ahead of the current use of that systems, say Java 1996), of course followed that it should be  at the front some years ago (2006) and say that some parts were not released as today. 
I see the business model as a consequence of the product not the market place, if it were so, then why they had the politics of something ahead of its time 5 to 10 years, it would be contradictory.
If you want to compare what you some OS companies are trying to do are not near of that, with Hypervisors, etc systems that would need 60 years of work of a man, and you already have that, why do you think they want to do so? 
But the best is still unknown they worked
 hard in UI toolkits, at Olivetti, collaborative Windowing systems, and that even that wasn't released as well, what does that mean, that nobody used it?
Thanks in advance


--- El mar, 13/12/11, felipe valdez <dataf4l at gmail.com> escribió:

De: felipe valdez <dataf4l at gmail.com>
Asunto: Re: [M3devel] Yet Another OS in Modula-3, AVOCA, in x-kernel
Para: "Daniel Alejandro Benavides D." <dabenavidesd at yahoo.es>
Fecha: martes, 13 de diciembre, 2011 12:14



On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 9:38 AM, Daniel Alejandro Benavides D. <dabenavidesd at yahoo.es>
 wrote:


Hi all:

But let yet one more time me to say we already the best OS in 80's:

unix?
oh!, Acorn  (never heard of it)





"say we already the best OS in 80's:" => I think you miss the verb there"

http://www.therealcompany.com/?pg=2



And if we care about that thuis thing changes everything, most of this guys ended up in SUN among other companies,
and Acorn is better than the SUN workstations of its time.. because...?

  I know they worked hard in specification of the OS API,  

so I bet you could to

I bet anyone could.
but why would they?what is the motivation?the business model? 

 equal other MicroKernel projects, again if you add up both things the best OS in 80's the best Programming Language in the 1990's and something else yet to be written.
 


Thanks in advance



--- El jue, 8/12/11, Daniel Alejandro Benavides D. <dabenavidesd at yahoo.es> escribió:



> De: Daniel Alejandro Benavides D. <dabenavidesd at yahoo.es>

> Asunto: Re: [M3devel] Yet Another OS in Modula-3, AVOCA, in x-kernel

> Para: m3devel at elegosoft.com, "Dariusz Knociński" <dknoto at next.com.pl>

> Fecha: jueves, 8 de diciembre, 2011 07:47

> Hi all:

> then if one is able to recode the existing Modular kernels,

> in one framework, there is possibility that you can build in

> the language of your preference, Modula-3 and now Java 7

> with Jigsaw framework:

> http://www.cs.utah.edu/flux/papers/banavar-thesis.ps.gz

>

> called Etyma

> and a kind of application for C++:

> http://www.cs.utah.edu/dept/techreports/docs/ncstrl.utah_cs/UUCS-93-006/UUCS-93-006.pdf

>

> Anyway, to have a outside use of this, would be nice to

> replace everything by Modula-3 code like:

> ftp://asg3.andrew.cmu.edu/pub/AUIS/PAPERS/conf/1992/Orgass.ps

>

> Thanks in advance

>

> --- El jue, 8/12/11, Dariusz Knociński <dknoto at next.com.pl>

> escribió:

>

> > De: Dariusz Knociński <dknoto at next.com.pl>

> > Asunto: Re: [M3devel] Yet Another OS in Modula-3,

> AVOCA, in x-kernel

> > Para: m3devel at elegosoft.com

> > Fecha: jueves, 8 de diciembre, 2011 01:55

> > On Wed, 7 Dec 2011 17:04:55 -0800

> > Jay <jay.krell at cornell.edu>

> > wrote:

> >

> > > Interesting project: port libm3core to NT or

> Linux

> > kernel, so drivers for those systems can be written

> in

> > Modula-3. Then show how it is both safe &

> efficient

> > & portable.

> > >

> > > But better yet is to provide for user mode

> drivers..

> > >

> > What do you think about  project L4? This is

> small

> > efficient microkernel written

> > in C++. I think, that in one year it can by rewrite

> to

> > Modula-3. All drivers can

> > be run in user space.

> >

> > DKnoto.

> >

> >

>




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