[M3devel] M3devel Digest, Vol 56, Issue 29

[Daniel Alejandro Benavides D.]

Hi all:
I believe you are correct, this things never worked for sure here (after some work here, could never shown that way for other CS tutors). Neither will work at least someone like you put the best points over them, I guess we shall see how about that in terms of ESC/Modula-3 logics, I guess the most important example of them was precisely MIT courseware of Butler Lampson (Turing Award) did most of the material from ground up, but still has influence in the way they teach there. He called its teaching language SPEC (many other ollow this route and called their later SPEC/bla..)
As I said I have no proof of this, but given this 1991 to 2006 experience, I believe no other but they know how did that work, at least for them.
http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/um/people/blampson/48-POCScourse/48-POCS2006Abstract.html

Let me know, what do you think, cpecially I bet this approach is used in rather hi-tech schools, thanks but never knew after many years later we should do that, but who knows, maybe there should be somebody who is ablet to pay the price to understand this better.

Thanks in advance 

--- El lun, 4/7/11, Dragiša Durić <dragisha at m3w.org> escribió:

> De: Dragiša Durić <dragisha at m3w.org>
> Asunto: Re: [M3devel] M3devel Digest, Vol 56, Issue 29
> Para: "Hendrik Boom" <hendrik at topoi.pooq.com>
> CC: m3devel at elegosoft.com
> Fecha: lunes, 4 de julio, 2011 17:34
> Thank you for a pointer and also for
> your effort.
> 
> But, not - thank you :).
> 
> I have a difficulty to understand how-in-the-hell we
> learned programming (my path was Pascal, BASIC, 6502,
> GraFORTH, Z80, C, Modula-2....) without
> functional-language-of-big-university-choice?
> 
> CMU messed a lot with Java and they are shell shocking
> their "customers" with ML now. It's like "Ok, we made a big
> mistake, but this is so obviously different it' also
> obviously not a mistake again".
> 
> Thank you big-university, but I am not buying that logic.
> Neither I am selling it to my kid.
> 
> MIT went there before them with *Scheme, and went deeper
> with lots of dialects too... It maybe works for someone (or
> someones) but I know a lot of excellent programers who never
> met functional.
> 
> dd
> 
> On Jun 28, 2011, at 5:54 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> 
> > Start with "How To Design Programs" (often called
> HtDP), which 
> > introduces Scheme, not Modula 3.  It's simple,
> direct, and gets to the 
> > point quite quickly and elegantly. 
> 
>