[M3devel] libXaw.so.6 again

[Daniel Alejandro Benavides D.]

Hi all:
respect of this:
http://compilers.iecc.com/comparch/article/94-11-053

The quest is to have a machine-independent compiler at the end but I think nobody cares that, and with industry making ever user machine C dependent it just calls for breaking the rules and make an improvement here.
Dec had an industrial compiler optimization system for all languages but I don't know if Modula-3 was ported to that as well, assuming they never used it for years just says how bad the computers evolved in C-ism, as DEC tried to imitate:
http://compilers.iecc.com/comparch/article/92-06-037

I think it didn't achieved it as far as It appears. 
Thanks in advance

--- El lun, 14/5/12, microcode at zoho.com <microcode at zoho.com> escribió:

De: microcode at zoho.com <microcode at zoho.com>
Asunto: Re: [M3devel] libXaw.so.6 again
Para: m3devel at elegosoft.com
Fecha: lunes, 14 de mayo, 2012 07:41

I think this could be solved by static linking mostly, but there could still be problems with libc/glibc as I found out with FPC recently. Surely somebody who knows UNIX/Linux ought to be able to figure a way around this. 
From:  "Daniel Alejandro Benavides D." <dabenavidesd at yahoo.es>
Date: Mon, 14 May 2012 13:24:47 +0100 (BST)To: Mika Nystrom<mika at async.caltech.edu>; <dragisha at m3w.org>; Jay K<jay.krell at cornell.edu>Cc: m3devel<m3devel at elegosoft.com>Subject: Re: [M3devel] libXaw.so.6 again
Hi all:
'forwards compatibility' is not achieved by any of OSes because of Gcc merits as it should be, but backwards also don't say a word as expected, mainly due "security issues", so I don't know if commercial *ix are, at least have the sources should make that easier I guess; I once tried to compile a virtual machine package and I was told that first find my distro's 'minimum common factor' and cross-compile to that system and then recompile everything on it, but I solved hacking the virtual machine sources, so my guess is that you can have 'forwards compatibility' if you can get a sufficient old version of your tool chain and OS to cross-compile from newer.
Modula-3 had this nice thing of emitting the "assembly sources" and emit native code for the platform in-situ and relink everything (so sort of eliminate the requisite of having an older compiler,
 but just native gcc nice to do). Maybe this would be a nice to have item for next releases, wouldn't be?
Thanks in advance

 

--- El lun, 14/5/12, Jay K <jay.krell at cornell.edu> escribió:

De: Jay K <jay.krell at cornell.edu>
Asunto: Re: [M3devel] libXaw.so.6 again
Para: "Mika Nystrom" <mika at async.caltech.edu>, dragisha at m3w.org
CC: "m3devel" <m3devel at elegosoft.com>
Fecha: lunes, 14 de mayo, 2012 02:20




Apparently free/open Unices (Linux, OpenBSD, FreeBSD, NetBSD) have no binary compatibility.
I find this very surprising, crazy, disappointing, but apparently true.
We must distribute source to achieve the usual expected portability.
 C source at that, to achieve the usual expected buildability.
Or maybe I'm confused.
The various commerical systems (Solaris, AIX, Irix, VMS, Windows, Darwin, HP-UX) do/did not have this problem.


 - Jay


> To: dragisha at m3w.org
> Date: Sun, 13 May 2012 23:51:15 -0700
> From: mika at async.caltech.edu
> CC: m3devel at elegosoft.com
> Subject: Re: [M3devel] libXaw.so.6 again
> 
> =?utf-8?Q?Dragi=C5=A1a_Duri=C4=87?= writes:
> ...
> >Another is to ln -s existing libXaw.so.7 to libXaw.so.6
> ...
> 
> "Not guaranteed to work" but almost always does, right?
 		
 	   		  

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