[M3devel] review before checkin/submit/commit? place for user-specific or work-in-progres?

[j k]

I admit there are /lots/ of source controls systems. It seems like cvs held 
down the fort a while, and then everyone about the same time decided they 
didn't like it and wrote more stuff.
I don't know anything about monotone.

Compared to my little bit of use of cvs, perforce has:
  files are read only by default locally
  you have to explicitly check them out (not exclusively mind you)
  so you get "p4 opened", "p4 diff", where cvs doesn't have them or is slow

For branching you can create an arbitrary tree of branches and "integrate" 
(merge) branches up or down the tree, or even across, or just individual 
files or changelists (aka "cherry picking).

Heck, p4 diff brings up windiff which is nice. Surely I'm not using cvs to 
its fullest (yet).

It has some model for "remote depots" where you have a local copy if all the 
history. I haven't used it. In fact, the one feature I'd like that Perforce 
does not have is doing this sort of thing by default.
As I understand, I think Subversion has that feature. Every developer has 
all the history locally. I think in Git takes this one step further and 
every developer has a local repository that is a peer of all the others. 
There's some lack of hierarchy which turns out ok.

I'd really like cvs diff to not require network use.
p4 diff isn't ideal here either.
Heck, at least save a local copy of any file I checkout, if not more history 
than that.

Anyway, my "random survey" includes very little use of anything, just 
reading up on a little bit of marketing and "community" and parts of books.

Subversion does have Perforce beat on cost+licensing, but Perforce is free 
for open source use, and free for a very small number of clients, I think 
10, formerly 2. I plan to use it at home. We use it at work so I am very 
familiar with it.

Open Watcom uses Perforce and I read in their newsgroup, either they or 
someone else, stopped using cvs partly because it was a large cpu drain on 
the host system.

There are just a bunch of systems these days.

- Jay

>From: hendrik at topoi.pooq.com
>To: m3devel at elegosoft.com
>CC: j k <jayk123 at hotmail.com>
>Subject: Re: [M3devel] review before checkin/submit/commit? place for 
>user-specific or work-in-progres?
>Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2007 22:10:27 -0500
>
>On Thu, Jan 04, 2007 at 02:07:36AM +0000, j k wrote:
> >
> > It looks like folks have made it easy to convert to other source 
>controls
> > systems, there are import tools, but I guess "easy" is relative, like 
>all
> > things. "Nothing" has the minimal short term cost of course, but usually
> > not the minimal long term cost. My understanding is that Subversion 
>isn't
> > so great either. It doesn't have like "hierarchical branches", just a
> > mainline and copying back and forth to it, something like that. My 
>"random
> > survey" says Perforce is best.
>
>I never heard of Perforce.  I've been using monotone here.  What did you
>like about it?
>
>-- hendrik

_________________________________________________________________
Get FREE Web site and company branded e-mail from Microsoft Office Live 
http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/mcrssaub0050001411mrt/direct/01/