[M3devel] quake extensions for tests / RFC

[Daniel Alejandro Benavides D.]

Hi:
  I'm sorry for not writing you all the things I like to see on CM3.
  It seems that the creator of ldb (Norman Ramsey) has been the creator of noweb, so I think his package as far as I have compiled it, is a good test, but maybe too large, so yes I would love to contribute with it.
   
  >Is there any problem with just including the 4 quake procedures as
>template? Anything that would not work?

  There isn`t (I think I have compiled with those functions as a ldb-template package template on ldb), but the builtin procedure which I don't see is the one I wrote so I think it should be added in this text case of ldb but also in other cases (I think quake acts as a prepocessor of the noweb Modula-3/generic sources).
   
  Thanks again, and hope that I answeres better this time.
   
   
  
"Daniel Alejandro Benavides D." <dabenavidesd at yahoo.es> escribió:
  Hi Olaf:
Thanks for your work, yes I think there are several functions more than those in the comments of M3Build.m3 that are needed, however I can confirm that these functions (the ones on M3Build.m3) are needed for be able to use noweb from quake.
But one thing worry me: I don't know if it is good to have code that depends on external tools (noweb for example). I would like to know what all you think about this respect.

Daniel Benavides


Olaf Wagner <wagner at elegosoft.com> escribió:  Quoting "Daniel Alejandro Benavides D." :

> Hi Olaf:
> Is still possible to add Literate programming support, I mean using 
> several functions that are just a commentary at the end of the file 
> on M3Build.m3:
> http://modula3.elegosoft.com/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/~checkout~/cm3/m3-sys/cm3/src/M3Build.m3?rev=1.8;content-type=text%2Fplain
>
> Also there is a missing one on Built-in functions, one that "copy" 
> the derived source of a noweb file (specifically a generic) from the 
> Target (e.g LINUXLIBC6) directory of the compiler to the src 
> directory. In that way the compiler can use the source. The name of 
> functions could be: "derived_generic_interface", 
> "derived_generic_implementation"
>
> This stuff is used on ldb debugger : http://www.eecs.harvard.edu/nr/ldb/
> The literate programming support was present on DEC SRC M3 I think:
> http://www.wiwi.uni-rostock.de/LABOR_NETZ/DOKUS/MODULA_3/html/modula-3/html/m3build/noweb.html

Hi again,

I've had a look at all that stuff, even downloaded ldb and installed noweb.
Still, I'd need a simple example to understand what exactly you would
like to have included in CM3 by default. Just the four commented-out
noweb procedures from M3Build.m3? Or more elaborate stuff like that
included in the ldb distribution?

Is there any problem with just including the 4 quake procedures as
template? Anything that would not work?

If you could provide a simple m3 package which contains all the uses
you'd like to see supported, we could even use that as a regression
test add-on. So if you send me a more specific and exact definition
and example, I'll try to add everything that is needed.

I've never done literate programming myself, and haven't got the time
to learn everything now and decide what is needed.

Olaf
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