[M3devel] cm3.cfg variables for IDE

[Tony Hosking]

On Jan 28, 2008, at 4:33 PM, Jay wrote:

> Make it easier on Windows... ? Right?
> Windows is the oddball anyway, right? Ok, that's not a great excuse.
>
> Do people tend to have firefox or firefox-bin on $PATH on Unix, if  
> they have it on their machines?
> Or they have "shortcuts" on their "start menus"?

Nope.  Not on Mac OS X.

>    I know this totally Windows termonilogy but I have used KDE and  
> GNOME and they seem pretty isomorphic in this area.
>    Ok, I guess they are the K menu the Foot menu. I don't know what  
> they call "shortcuts".
>
> Is anyone, um, interested in adopting spaces in their file paths on  
> Unix and work out the kinks?
> I for one put my compiler, linker, headers, libs without spaces,  
> AND the environment variable based approach I put in makes spaces  
> work anyway.
> Less luck with IE though.
>
> The code is likely forked in terms of where it runs stuff.  
> CreateProcess vs. exec. Not that Windows doesn't have stuff that  
> looks more like exec, or esp. system(), but still some chance that  
> it is forked. So going down the Windows CreateProcess path, it  
> could optionally use ShellExecute, and that will more leaf-only  
> paths like "wordpad.exe" and "iexplore.exe" "just work".
>
> Here is another idea. There are environment variables for % 
> programfiles% and %programfiles(x86)%.
> How about letting environment variables be used here?
> Well, heck, they are already are allowed, in Quake, with a leading  
> dollar sign.
> BROWSER  = $ProgramFiles & "\internet explorer\iexplore.exe" or  
> somesuch.
> Not sure you could reference x86 IE from a 64bit process, what with  
> hose parens in the variable name.. darnit.
> I've got to an AMD64 machine for home soon...
>
> If these are "paths to files" and not "command lines", then spaces  
> are unambiguous.
> As well, CreateProcess is a little funky, but one of its parameters  
> is a file path, not a command line and using that might help here,  
> might.
>
>  - Jay
>
>
>
> > CC: rcoleburn at scires.com; m3devel at elegosoft.com
> > From: hosking at cs.purdue.edu
> > Subject: Re: [M3devel] cm3.cfg variables for IDE
> > Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 14:32:19 -0500
> > To: jayk123 at hotmail.com
> >
> > It is not so much old-fashioned as consistent across platforms  
> (Unix,
> > Windows, etc.). Ideally, the same install procedure and environment
> > variables make sense on all platforms. Don't fork the install for
> > different platforms if at all possible.
> >
> > On Jan 28, 2008, at 1:40 PM, Jay wrote:
> >
> > > There are other ways to do this...rather than run iexplore, you  
> can
> > > use ShellExecute and run a url or something, or find the clsid of
> > > mshtml.dll maybe. For wordpad, again ShellExecute wil tend to find
> > > it. Notice how if you say start.run and type wordpad, it finds it?
> > > Or "start wordpad" from the command line? "start" ~ ShellExecute,
> > > instead of CreateProcess. "Shell" meaning the GUI shell -- Windows
> > > Explorer.
> > >
> > > Wordpad and notepad stink as text editors. And notepad doesn't  
> like
> > > Unix newlines. I assume that's why wordepad.
> > > Someting should be done, like, in the grand gui installer,  
> where it
> > > lists some freeware/shareware editors and offers to download and
> > > install and set them as the editor for you. Stuf like TextEdit,
> > > TextPad, UltraEdit...I think all of those exist, though somewhat
> > > I'm guesing based on the obvious formula. :)
> > > As well if it locate msdev or devenv that would be super.
> > >
> > > As I was saying the other day, I believe msdev and devenv are
> > > easily findable via normal installs, except not on my machines. :)
> > > I need to go through the environment you sent.
> > >
> > > The way this stuff works in Modula-3 today is..unnecessarily old
> > > fashioned...I'm all for simplicity, but having a bajillion
> > > environment variables does not seem to be the thing. Or a  
> bajillion
> > > line user editor text files. Or short file names anywhere! Just do
> > > a backup/restore and see if those names survive. They might. They
> > > might not. Oh well, true, nobody ever backs anything up. Still,
> > > xcopy your software from one machine to another and see if the
> > > paths still work -- definitely it's hard to do that for free, but
> > > you can keep the cost down.
> > >
> > > - Jay
> > >
> > >
> > > Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 13:15:42 -0500From: rcoleburn at scires.comTo:
> > > jayk123 at hotmail.comCC: m3devel at elegosoft.comSubject: cm3.cfg
> > > variables for IDE
> > >
> > > Jay:
> > >
> > > I thought I should let you know what I understand to be the
> > > variables that the IDE is looking to find in cm3.cfg. That way, as
> > > you work through any changes to the various cm3.cfg, you can make
> > > sure these requirements are met
> >
>
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