[M3devel] package groups question

[hendrik at topoi.pooq.com]

On Sat, Aug 01, 2009 at 09:16:28PM +0000, Jay K wrote:
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> Nobody is going to make you install Xorg.
>  
>  - we only have X clients, no dependencies on an X server 
>  
>  
>  - if we just omit any dependencies and leave the obvious errors to 
>    occur if you happen to run those binaries (unable to find 
>    libX11.so...) that's not terrible imho. 
>  Granted that might be a little unfriendly to people who actually want 
>    to run..uh..formsedit, and don't yet have X client libraries and 
>    are willing to install them if only it is suggested to them..
>  
>  
> Keep in mind that Olaf isn't building .debs and .rpms, just these .tar.gz files, that, indeed, have no stated dependencies -- leading to exactly what I said, no suggestion to install anything else, leaving forsmedit et. al. to fail to launch.

Well, that's OK for now, then.

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>  
> Are their tools to turn dynamic link dependencies into package dependencies??

I don't think Debian does this.  I think package dependencies are 
determined manually, judging form the occasional package I've 
encountered that lacks a few.

-- hendrik

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>  - Jay
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> > Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 17:03:18 -0400
> > From: hendrik at topoi.pooq.com
> > To: m3devel at elegosoft.com
> > Subject: Re: [M3devel] package groups question
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 11:51:41PM -0700, jay.krell at cornell.edu wrote:
> >> | From what I've gleaned in the discussions and the current
> >> documentation, I think most everyone has settled on the idea of having
> >> 2 "binary" distributions for this release: "min" and "std".
> >>>
> >>
> >> Really? How about just "std" and don't even label it as such? How many
> >> expert users are clamoring for "min"?
> >>
> >> There was actually a push for several non overlaping package sets and
> >> Olaf did work for that. But I'm not sure that is worth it.
> >
> > The packages probably shouldn't overlap (at least if we want them to be
> > adopted by Linux distributions, whose installers know about package
> > dependencies)
> >
> > But there are packages that should be optional. There's no way I'm
> > going to be able to install Xorg on a text-only machine just so I can
> > install cm3 because, say, Trestle is part of the standard package and
> > it's compiled for X.
> >
> > -- hendrik