[M3devel] Getting ready for new users (Re: HEADS UP: Release engineering)

[Jay]

ps: NT386 isn't in the list.
 
 
Interix btw is something you free "beer" download and install on some versions of Windows (XP, 2003, I think 2000), and is an optional component you can just enable on newer version (2003R2, Vista, 2008).
So maybe Windows and/or NT should be mentioned there.
Support will likely only be for 3.5 or newer, since that is when pthreads support was added, and it is already fairly old.
 
 
NT386GNU and NT386MINGNU are missing also, but that's ok.
 
 
I kind of like the idea of there being "tiers" of platforms.
Two or maybe three.
The more supported and the less supported.
 
 
I would suggest:
 
 
tier 1:
 LINUXLIBC6 (aka I386_LINUX) 
 AMD64_LINUX 
 FreeBSD4 (aka I386_FREEBSD) 
 AMD64_FREEBSD 
 AMD64_LINUX 
 I386_LINUX 
 SOLgnu 
 
 
tier 2:
 SPARC32_LINUX 
 SPARC64_LINUX  
 *_OPENBSD 
 *_NETBSD, NetBSD2i386 
 SOLsun 
 PPC_* 
 MIPS*_* 
 
 
tier 3:
 could probably be done easily/quickly if anyone wanted and hardware made available, if gcc 4.2 or 4.3 already supports it 
 (You see, a C backend would extend support to more systems..Plan9 for example...)
 
 
This is based on apparent number of users.
I don't draw a distinction between I386_DARWIN and AMD64_DARWIN because they run on nearly the exact same systems, nearly. (except non-Apple hardware, a few old x86 Macs, and maybe Apple TV).
 
 
It might be reasonable as well to say a platform can only be tier 1 if has a Tinderbox running.
That would knock the list down a lot though.
 
 
 - Jay



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> Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 14:34:31 +0200
> From: wagner at elegosoft.com
> To: jay.krell at cornell.edu
> CC: hendrik at topoi.pooq.com; m3devel at elegosoft.com
> Subject: RE: [M3devel] Getting ready for new users (Re: HEADS UP: Release engineering)
>
> Quoting Jay :
>
>>
>> 2) CM3's shared libraries and any you create and ship are in:
>> /usr/local/cm3/lib
>> On most Unix systems you need to set the LD_LIBRARY_PATH
>> (on Darwin / MacOS X it's called DYLD_LIBRARY_PATH)
>> environment variable before running programs that use
>> these shared libraries.
>> You don't need to do this any longer.
>> Except on NetBSD. But even that will change with a move to NetBSD 5.0,
>> which was recently released.
>> I'm not certain I got to every platform yet with that change, but
>> I definitely got to a few.
>
> doc fixed
>
>> AMD64_DARWIN is missing from the list.
>> You should probably mention "Mac OSX" in the description of "Darwin",
>> well, except for ARM_DARWIN, which should mention iPhone and iPod Touch.
>> (cm3 does run on my phone..)
>
> There is no configuration file for it in
>
> m3-sys/cminstall/src/config-no-install
>
> I've added it nonetheless. Perhaps you need to commit it.
>
>> Interix should mention Service for Unix (SFU) and Subsystem for Unix
>> Applications (SUA).
>
> added
>
>> SOLgnu uses the GNU C compiler but I believe Sun linker.
>
> fixed
>
>> I still haven't done much with my Alpha and IA64 machines. :)
>>
>>
>> Hm, so many archives per platform now.
>> Combinatorial situations lend themselves to combinatorial
>> thinking/work, yuck..
>
> We can also provide one complete big archive if people want that.
> It's just a matter of adding one line in make-dist.sh.
> It will put some more stress on our network links though ;-)
> I doubt that many people really want everything.
>
> Thanks for the comments,
>
> Olaf
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