[M3devel] 386?486?586?686?etc.?

Jay K jay.krell at cornell.edu
Tue Mar 9 16:36:18 CET 2010


> I'm still running an old 100 MHz Pentium and using it on a daily basis.


There was a recent thread on the gcc lists about this.

Fedora 11 requires Pentium ("586").

Fedora 12 requires Pentium Pro ("686").

Various distros also use xz/lzma instead of gzip.

  But OpenBSD sticks with gzip for perf on old machines.

  Our .deb files use lzma, if the machine building them has the tools.

 

 

>> Wow. What for? And with Modula-3? What OS?


 - Jay


 


From: jay.krell at cornell.edu
To: hendrik at topoi.pooq.com; m3devel at elegosoft.com
Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 15:22:21 +0000
Subject: Re: [M3devel] 386?486?586?686?etc.?



Wow. What for? And with Modula-3? What OS?
I think Pentium will be ok.
I think ultimately, if people really need, we should have separate targets.
As I've been saying, like: I386_FREEBSD_USERTHREADS, I586_FREEBSD, etc.
 Esp. to enable easier "release engineering", such as when we do more cross builds,
  adding new targets will be cheaper. But we'd want some sort of system
  where if nobody downloads and installs and minimally tests a release, it is
  in some low grade classification.
  Certain ones we'd test automatically, like whatever we have available in Hudson.
 
 -Jay
 
> Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 22:58:48 -0500
> From: hendrik at topoi.pooq.com
> To: m3devel at elegosoft.com
> Subject: Re: [M3devel] 386?486?586?686?etc.?
> 
> On Sun, Feb 07, 2010 at 11:59:11PM +0000, Jay K wrote:
> > 
> > Any opinions/counter-opinions on which processors we should support?
> > 
> > Presumably it doesn't vary per platform.
> > 
> > Like, it wouldn't be Linux/586 and FreeBSD/486 or such.
> > 
> > Unless maybe there is clear data about what the kernels support?
> > 
> > The atomic stuff is pushing things to i586.
> > I believe before 486 and possibly 386 worked.
> > 
> > 686 is probably reasonable.
> > 
> > I think it is Pentium II or Pentium Pro or newer, stuff like 15 years old already.
> 
> I'm still running an old 100 MHz Pentium and using it on a daily basis.
> 
> Debian has dropped support for the 386 with, as far as I know, no 
> complaints.
> 
> -- hendrik.
 		 	   		  
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