[M3devel] Yet Another OS in Modula-3, AVOCA, in x-kernel

Tue Dec 20 21:30:53 CET 2011

Hi all:
Thanks for the message but don't be troubled:

http://books.google.com.co/books?id=xIujg_rkEX8C

http://books.google.com.co/books?id=n7eVRz6edrMC&lpg=PA62&dq=jvideo%20xerox&pg=PA61#v=onepage&q&f=false

I think the times changes as so that projects evolve, but still they are the research field, and not still in the market, are they dead?

--- El mar, 20/12/11, felipe valdez <dataf4l at gmail.com> escribió:

De: felipe valdez <dataf4l at gmail.com>
Asunto: Re: [M3devel] Yet Another OS in Modula-3, AVOCA, in x-kernel
Para: "Daniel Alejandro Benavides D." <dabenavidesd at yahoo.es>
Fecha: martes, 20 de diciembre, 2011 15:26

I just can't be excited about dead Operating systems, running on 8mhz hardware.
not the stuff for me tough.
I'm sure it is *your* coup of tea....
but I sort of feel spammed by it...

On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 3:12 PM, Daniel Alejandro Benavides D. <dabenavidesd at yahoo.es> wrote:

Hi all:
Have a look at the real workstation Window System problem:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acorn_Computers#cite_ref-23

Having said that, still the Window system in the A500 was ahead of its time so you might say it could run in BBC-Micro systems, like 32016 as VDU across the TUBE ULA but HW backwards compatibility as well!

There is a book refereed to that as well who details the Archimedes A500 architecture If my memory serves still:

http://www.zxdesign.info/book/bookAnnounce.shtml

See other projects have included this technologies as well:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acorn_Computers#Set-Top_boxes

Thanks in advance

--- El lun, 19/12/11, felipe valdez <dataf4l at gmail.com> escribió:

De: felipe valdez <dataf4l at gmail.com>
Asunto: Re: [M3devel] Yet Another OS in Modula-3, AVOCA, in x-kernel
Para: "Daniel Alejandro Benavides D." <dabenavidesd at yahoo.es>

CC: m3devel at elegosoft.com, "Hendrik Boom" <hendrik at topoi.pooq.com>
Fecha: lunes, 19 de diciembre, 2011 19:37

On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 1:08 PM, Daniel Alejandro Benavides D. <dabenavidesd at yahoo.es> wrote:

Hi all:

Well indeed, that they sell like 200 copies of ARX Acorn/Olivetti (besides 100 or so developers on the developer machines):

http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?set=custom&viewmonth=200909&viewday=&forum_name=png-mng-implement&style=nested&max_rows=75&submit=Change+View

If so, they didn't release because of the cost issues were very important as you can see in this 01:30 video

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-11082701

Anyway the history behind that system is on this machine:

http://acorn.chriswhy.co.uk/Computers/A500.html

"CPU Clock8MHz"

alt+f4.

It seemed that the Acorn had not released because of cost issues rather than marketing reasons, since the selling machines were not ready for its system:

http://acorn.chriswhy.co.uk/docs/Acorn/Tech/Acorn_FastA500s.pdf

But the compiler (I think called CAMEL) was not to blame, since it had a pretty good performance in terms of the chip (yeah it was but even not that fast for such machines cost relation). Later it wasn't released for some other reasons (would I know why, I guess they just took C route).

Thanks in advance

--- El mar, 13/12/11, Hendrik Boom <hendrik at topoi.pooq.com> escribió:

> De: Hendrik Boom <hendrik at topoi.pooq.com>

> Asunto: Re: [M3devel] Yet Another OS in Modula-3, AVOCA, in x-kernel

> Para: m3devel at elegosoft.com

> Fecha: martes, 13 de diciembre, 2011 17:38

> On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 09:54:50PM

> +0000, Daniel Alejandro Benavides D. wrote:

> >

> > But the best is still unknown they worked hard in UI

> toolkits, at

> > Olivetti, collaborative Windowing systems, and that

> even that wasn't

> > released as well, what does that mean, that nobody

> used it?

>

> If they didn't release it, no one could use it.  So

> why did they not

> release it?

>

> -- hendrik

>

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