[M3devel] M3devel Digest, Vol 56, Issue 30

Wed Jun 29 09:34:42 CEST 2011

Some time ago, I shared the details for accessing by anonymous CVS the
source code for my Scheme-in-Modula-3 system.  It's based on Norvig's
JScheme (but as it is in Modula I call it MScheme) and has all the same
features (almost-complete version of R4RS) and more.  The niftiest bit
is that you can call Modula procedures and methods directly from Scheme;
you can also override methods in Modula objects with Scheme procedures.
That's all done with a stub generator based on the Network Objects
stub generator.  All that stuff is included.  I use the system daily
on "mission-critical" applications and it is relatively complete.
Documentation, speed, and size of the executable are its weak spots.

How to get it:

cvs -d :pserver:anonymous at pluto.gcapltd.com:/home/gcap-public-cvs checkout .

     Mika

"Daniel Alejandro Benavides D." writes:
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>Hi all:
>it's a good idea, but nicer to use the distributed spreadsheet if I may say=
> so, so anyone involved can use it:
>http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/2690
>
>I will see who can provide a local copy of its sources, thanks in advance
>
>
>--- El mar, 28/6/11, felipe valdez <felipevaldez at gmail.com> escribi=F3:
>
>De: felipe valdez <felipevaldez at gmail.com>
>Asunto: Re: [M3devel] M3devel Digest, Vol 56, Issue 30
>Para: m3devel at elegosoft.com
>Fecha: martes, 28 de junio, 2011 12:00
>
>to Daniel:
>
>the message was garbled
>
>
>
>
>perhaps you can create a google docs free table and show it to us in a URL =
>?
>
>
>
>this is how it appeared in my gmail:
>
>OS??????? | Linux | FreeBSD | OpenBSD | Tru64 | Mac OSX | NT4.0 | HP-UX | A=
>IX
>
>
>HW?????? -----------+---------------+----------------+----------+----------=
>------+----------+-----------+-------
>DECaxp?? o????? | ?????? o?????? |??????? o??????? | ???
> o???? | ????? +? ? ? ? | ? ?? x ?? | ? ?? + ?? |?? +??????
>
>
>i86pc??????? o????? | ?????? o?????? | ?????? o??????? | ??? +??? | ?????? =
>x??????? | ???? x??? | ???? x ?? | ? +
>i86smp???? o????? |??????? o?????? | ?????? o??????? | ??? + ?? |
> ?????? o? ? ? ? |? ? ? x ?? | ?? ? x ?? |?? + ??? Ppc ???????? o?????? |??=
>???? o?????? |???????? o?????? |????? +??? |?????? o??????? |????? x??? |??=
>???? +?? |??? o
>
>
>
>not the most readable...
>
>
>to Mr. Jay K=20
>
>I recommend you seek poor schools in your Area, that might be in need of a =
>computer, and provide them it so that the kids can learn linux or whatever.
>
>
>this would reduce shipping cost, as for ssh, perhaps they won't have a publ=
>ic IP, but you should still be able to login, if you install hamachi or a s=
>imilar product in both ends.
>
>
>I'm sure there are schools in your zipcode that don't have access to a  ser=
>ver like the one you mention.
>
>
>or maybe a community college or government-run university ?
>good luck
>I'd help you myself, but I live too far away, unfortunately.
>
>
>
>
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>   1. Re: hardware/software sales.. AlphaServer DS10L, Tru64
>
>      (Daniel Alejandro Benavides D.)
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>   2. Re: M3devel Digest, Vol 56, Issue 29 (felipe valdez)
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>Message: 1
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>Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 17:50:12 +0100 (BST)
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>From: "Daniel Alejandro Benavides D." <dabenavidesd at yahoo.es>
>
>Subject: Re: [M3devel] hardware/software sales.. AlphaServer DS10L,
>
>        Tru64
>
>To: m3devel <m3devel at elegosoft.com>, Jay K <jay.krell at cornell.edu>
>
>Message-ID:
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>        <1309193412.10741.YahooMailClassic at web29701.mail.ird.yahoo.com>
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>Hi all:
>
>completely forgot the Win9* systems, perhaps the idea is not bad at all, si=
>cne many of those machines were in emerging markets already and maybe still=
> there:
>
>http://www.cs.tut.fi/lintula/manual/modula3/modula-3/html/m3ug-oopsla94/sum=
>mary.html
>
>
>
>Finally a word about of Juno-2, if the most important of tools is that, the=
>re is a way to do it, I run it on cygwinb20, it runs smoothly, interesting =
>tough to see it on a Chicago/PC!
>
>
>
>Thanks in advance
>
>
>
>--- El vie, 24/6/11, Daniel Alejandro Benavides D. <dabenavidesd at yahoo.es> =
>escribi?:
>
>
>
>De: Daniel Alejandro Benavides D. <dabenavidesd at yahoo.es>
>
>Asunto: Re: [M3devel] hardware/software sales.. AlphaServer DS10L, Tru64
>
>Para: "m3devel" <m3devel at elegosoft.com>, "Jay K" <jay.krell at cornell.edu>
>
>Fecha: viernes, 24 de junio, 2011 20:15
>
>
>
>Hi all:
>
>I know it may sound odd, but how about installing the full working M3 syste=
>m on every one of it (thus you kind of sell the as a CM3 server of its own =
>win*/*ix flavor) , does someone can create such a server (through potential=
> SPIN OS Sphinix)? I mean code generate for every platform on each row, or =
>if you have multiple OS then built a matrix hw x OS
>
>
>
>
>
>OS??????? | Linux | FreeBSD | OpenBSD | Tru64 | Mac OSX | NT4.0 | HP-UX | A=
>IX
>
>HW?????? -----------+---------------+----------------+----------+----------=
>------+----------+-----------+-------
>
>DECaxp?? o????? | ?????? o?????? |??????? o??????? | ???
>
> o???? | ????? +? ? ? ? | ? ?? x ?? | ? ?? + ?? |?? +??????
>
>i86pc??????? o????? | ?????? o?????? | ?????? o??????? | ??? +??? | ?????? =
>x??????? | ???? x??? | ???? x ?? | ? +
>
>i86smp???? o????? |??????? o?????? | ?????? o??????? | ??? + ?? |
>
> ?????? o? ? ? ? |? ? ? x ?? | ?? ? x ?? |?? + ??? Ppc ???????? o?????? |??=
>???? o?????? |???????? o?????? |????? +??? |?????? o??????? |????? x??? |??=
>???? +?? |??? o
>
>
>
>
>
>I myself would need some help to install any of those systems, so if you co=
>uld build? the system in itself would be wonderful. Best than that perhaps =
>with alternate multiBoot and/or in original conditions.
>
>
>
>Thanks in advance
>
>
>
>--- El vie, 24/6/11,
>
> Jay K <jay.krell at cornell.edu> escribi?:
>
>
>
>De: Jay K <jay.krell at cornell.edu>
>
>Asunto: [M3devel] hardware/software sales.. AlphaServer DS10L, Tru64
>
>Para: "m3devel" <m3devel at elegosoft.com>
>
>Fecha: viernes, 24 de junio, 2011 15:55
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>sorry if this is too repititive.
>
>
>
>
>
>I have two AlphaServer DS10Ls.
>
>I believe they both work.
>
>They have CPU and memory.
>
>And maybe hard drive.
>
>? one had a problem with the hard drive I think and I was/am mid-replacing =
>it.
>
>And maybe optical drive -- one has it. I was mid-moving it to other to inst=
>all from CD.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>They can run any of: Linux, NetBSD, OpenBSD, FreeBSD, VMS, Tru64, Windows (=
>NT 4.0).
>
>
>
>
>
>I can throw in one complete copy of Tru64 5.1b. Box. Manuals. CDs.
>
>
>
>Cost is that we split shipping to US.
>
>
>
>And ideally you let me ssh in, get Modula-3 up-and-running, maybe leave it =
>as Hudson node.
>
>? I.e. you provide space and electricity. At least temporarily. Space, real=
>ly.
>
>
>
>
>
>We already got Tru64 (re)working within the past year. On older versions.
>
>NT 4.0 is too much work, until/unless we have a C backend. And then it woul=
>d be interesting, really. I can provide/acquire NT
>
> 4.0/Alpha.
>
>VMS is almost done. And otherwise available to me..but seemingly very slow.=
> I'd like to give it another chance on another machine.
>
>The others should all be easy and I would bother with doing them.
>
>? Hudson wouldn't likely be viable on OpenBSD, NetBSD, FreeBSD.
>
>? Hudson should be easily viable on Linux (Debian 5.0; current Gentoo) and =
>maybe others (VMS? Tru64?).
>
>
>
>I can also provide for half shipping to USA:
>
>?Mac laptop for PPC_LINUX
>
>?PC laptops for I386_LINUX, I386_OPENBSD.
>
>
>
>
>
>But I might set those back up.
>
>
>
>
>
>?- Jay
>
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>Message: 2
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>Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 18:31:09 -0500
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>From: felipe valdez <felipevaldez at gmail.com>
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>Subject: Re: [M3devel] M3devel Digest, Vol 56, Issue 29
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>in an interesting conversation with a friend of mine, we compared GO and
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>Modula-3
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>I said that the main difference, is that the GO people want their language
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>used by other people, but the Modula-3 people seemed too busy to try to gro=
>w
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>the community, by providing an easy to use installer on windows.
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>
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>this lead me to think hard, because, I'm not sure of what efforts have been
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>made, to grow the community.
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>is anybody in this list actively working on this?
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>is having a larger modula3 community, desirable?
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>>   2. Re: hardware/software sales.. AlphaServer DS10L, Tru64
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>>      (Daniel Alejandro Benavides D.)
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>> Message: 1
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>> Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 20:55:50 +0000
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>> From: Jay K <jay.krell at cornell.edu>
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>> Subject: [M3devel] hardware/software sales.. AlphaServer DS10L, Tru64
>
>> To: m3devel <m3devel at elegosoft.com>
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>> sorry if this is too repititive.
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>>
>
>>
>
>> I have two AlphaServer DS10Ls.
>
>> I believe they both work.
>
>> They have CPU and memory.
>
>> And maybe hard drive.
>
>>  one had a problem with the hard drive I think and I was/am mid-replacing
>
>> it.
>
>> And maybe optical drive -- one has it. I was mid-moving it to other to
>
>> install from CD.
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>> They can run any of: Linux, NetBSD, OpenBSD, FreeBSD, VMS, Tru64, Windows
>
>> (NT 4.0).
>
>>
>
>>
>
>> I can throw in one complete copy of Tru64 5.1b. Box. Manuals. CDs.
>
>>
>
>> Cost is that we split shipping to US.
>
>>
>
>> And ideally you let me ssh in, get Modula-3 up-and-running, maybe leave i=
>t
>
>> as Hudson node.
>
>>  I.e. you provide space and electricity. At least temporarily. Space,
>
>> really.
>
>>
>
>>
>
>> We already got Tru64 (re)working within the past year. On older versions.
>
>> NT 4.0 is too much work, until/unless we have a C backend. And then it
>
>> would be interesting, really. I can provide/acquire NT 4.0/Alpha.
>
>> VMS is almost done. And otherwise available to me..but seemingly very slo=
>w.
>
>> I'd like to give it another chance on another machine.
>
>> The others should all be easy and I would bother with doing them.
>
>>  Hudson wouldn't likely be viable on OpenBSD, NetBSD, FreeBSD.
>
>>  Hudson should be easily viable on Linux (Debian 5.0; current Gentoo) and
>
>> maybe others (VMS? Tru64?).
>
>>
>
>> I can also provide for half shipping to USA:
>
>>  Mac laptop for PPC_LINUX
>
>>  PC laptops for I386_LINUX, I386_OPENBSD.
>
>>
>
>>
>
>> But I might set those back up.
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>  - Jay
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>> Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 02:15:02 +0100 (BST)
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>> From: "Daniel Alejandro Benavides D." <dabenavidesd at yahoo.es>
>
>> Subject: Re: [M3devel] hardware/software sales.. AlphaServer DS10L,
>
>>        Tru64
>
>> To: m3devel <m3devel at elegosoft.com>, Jay K <jay.krell at cornell.edu>
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>> Message-ID:
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>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1"
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>>
>
>> Hi all:
>
>> I know it may sound odd, but how about installing the full working M3
>
>> system on every one of it (thus you kind of sell the as a CM3 server of i=
>ts
>
>> own win*/*ix flavor) , does someone can create such a server (through
>
>> potential SPIN OS Sphinix)? I mean code generate for every platform on ea=
>ch
>
>> row, or if you have multiple OS then built a matrix hw x OS
>
>>
>
>> OS??????? | Linux | FreeBSD | OpenBSD | Tru64 | Mac OSX | NT4.0 | HP-UX |
>
>> AIX
>
>> HW??????
>
>> -----------+---------------+----------------+----------+----------------+=
>----------+-----------+-------
>
>> DECaxp?? o????? | ?????? o?????? |??????? o??????? | ??? o???? | ????? +?=
> ?
>
>> ? ? | ? ?? x ?? | ? ?? + ?? |?? +??????
>
>> i86pc??????? o????? | ?????? o?????? | ?????? o??????? | ??? +??? | ?????=
>?
>
>> x??????? | ???? x??? | ???? x ?? | ? +
>
>> i86smp???? o????? |??????? o?????? | ?????? o??????? | ??? + ?? | ?????? =
>o?
>
>> ? ? ? |? ? ? x ?? | ?? ? x ?? |?? + ??? Ppc ???????? o?????? |?????? o???=
>???
>
>> |???????? o?????? |????? +??? |?????? o??????? |????? x??? |?????? +?? |?=
>??
>
>> o
>
>>
>
>>
>
>> I myself would need some help to install any of those systems, so if you
>
>> could build? the system in itself would be wonderful. Best than that perh=
>aps
>
>> with alternate multiBoot and/or in original conditions.
>
>>
>
>> Thanks in advance
>
>>
>
>> --- El vie, 24/6/11, Jay K <jay.krell at cornell.edu> escribi?:
>
>>
>
>> De: Jay K <jay.krell at cornell.edu>
>
>> Asunto: [M3devel] hardware/software sales.. AlphaServer DS10L, Tru64
>
>> Para: "m3devel" <m3devel at elegosoft.com>
>
>> Fecha: viernes, 24 de junio, 2011 15:55
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>> sorry if this is too repititive.
>
>>
>
>>
>
>> I have two AlphaServer DS10Ls.
>
>> I believe they both work.
>
>> They have CPU and memory.
>
>> And maybe hard drive.
>
>> ? one had a problem with the hard drive I think and I was/am mid-replacin=
>g
>
>> it.
>
>> And maybe optical drive -- one has it. I was mid-moving it to other to
>
>> install from CD.
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>> They can run any of: Linux, NetBSD, OpenBSD, FreeBSD, VMS, Tru64, Windows
>
>> (NT 4.0).
>
>>
>
>>
>
>> I can throw in one complete copy of Tru64 5.1b. Box. Manuals. CDs.
>
>>
>
>> Cost is that we split shipping to US.
>
>>
>
>> And ideally you let me ssh in, get Modula-3 up-and-running, maybe leave i=
>t
>
>> as Hudson node.
>
>> ? I.e. you provide space and electricity. At least temporarily. Space,
>
>> really.
>
>>
>
>>
>
>> We already got Tru64 (re)working within the past year. On older versions.
>
>> NT 4.0 is too much work, until/unless we have a C backend. And then it
>
>> would be interesting, really. I can provide/acquire NT 4.0/Alpha.
>
>> VMS is almost done. And otherwise available to me..but seemingly very slo=
>w.
>
>> I'd like to give it another chance on another machine.
>
>> The others should all be easy and I would bother with doing them.
>
>> ? Hudson wouldn't likely be viable on OpenBSD, NetBSD, FreeBSD.
>
>> ? Hudson should be easily viable on Linux (Debian 5.0; current Gentoo) an=
>d
>
>> maybe others (VMS? Tru64?).
>
>>
>
>> I can also provide for half shipping to USA:
>
>> ?Mac laptop for PPC_LINUX
>
>> ?PC laptops for I386_LINUX, I386_OPENBSD.
>
>>
>
>>
>
>> But I might set those back up.
>
>>
>
>>
>
>> ?- Jay
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><table cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" border=3D"0" ><tr><td valign=3D"=
>top" style=3D"font: inherit;">Hi all:<br>it's a good idea, but nicer to use=
> the distributed spreadsheet if I may say so, so anyone involved can use it=
>:<br>http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/2690<br><br>I will see who can pro=
>vide a local copy of its sources, thanks in advance<br><br><br>--- El <b>ma=
>r, 28/6/11, felipe valdez <i><felipevaldez at gmail.com></i></b> escribi=
>=F3:<br><blockquote style=3D"border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margi=
>n-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"><br>De: felipe valdez <felipevaldez at gma=
>il.com><br>Asunto: Re: [M3devel] M3devel Digest, Vol 56, Issue 30<br>Par=
>a: m3devel at elegosoft.com<br>Fecha: martes, 28 de junio, 2011 12:00<br><br><=
>div id=3D"yiv1784092051"><font face=3D"courier new,monospace">to Daniel:<br=
>></font><div><font class=3D"yiv1784092051Apple-style-span" face=3D"'courier=
> new', monospace"><br></font></div><div><font class=3D"yiv1784092051Apple-s=
>tyle-span"
> face=3D"'courier new', monospace">the message was garbled<br>
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></font></div><div><div class=3D"yiv1784092051gmail_quote"><br></div><div cl=
>ass=3D"yiv1784092051gmail_quote"><br></div><div class=3D"yiv1784092051gmail=
>_quote">perhaps you can create a google docs free table and show it to us i=
>n a URL ?</div><div class=3D"yiv1784092051gmail_quote">
><br>
></div><div class=3D"yiv1784092051gmail_quote"><br></div><div class=3D"yiv17=
>84092051gmail_quote">this is how it appeared in my gmail:</div><div class=
>=3D"yiv1784092051gmail_quote"><br></div><div class=3D"yiv1784092051gmail_qu=
>ote"><br></div><span class=3D"yiv1784092051Apple-style-span" style=3D"borde=
>r-collapse: collapse; font-family: arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;">OS??=
>????? | Linux | FreeBSD | OpenBSD | Tru64 | Mac OSX | NT4.0 | HP-UX | AIX<b=
>r>
>
>HW?????? -----------+---------------+----------------+----------+----------=
>------+----------+-----------+-------<br>DECaxp?? o????? | ?????? o?????? |=
>??????? o??????? | ???<br> o???? | ????? +? ? ? ? | ? ?? x ?? | ? ?? + ?? |=
>?? +??????<br>
>
>i86pc??????? o????? | ?????? o?????? | ?????? o??????? | ??? +??? | ?????? =
>x??????? | ???? x??? | ???? x ?? | ? +<br>i86smp???? o????? |??????? o?????=
>? | ?????? o??????? | ??? + ?? |<br></span><div class=3D"yiv1784092051gmail=
>_quote"><span class=3D"yiv1784092051Apple-style-span" style=3D"border-colla=
>pse: collapse; font-family: arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"> ?????? o? =
>? ? ? |? ? ? x ?? | ?? ? x ?? |?? + ??? Ppc ???????? o?????? |?????? o?????=
>? |???????? o?????? |????? +??? |?????? o??????? |????? x??? |?????? +?? |?=
>?? o</span></div>
>
><div class=3D"yiv1784092051gmail_quote"><br></div><div class=3D"yiv17840920=
>51gmail_quote"><br></div><div class=3D"yiv1784092051gmail_quote">not the mo=
>st readable...</div><div class=3D"yiv1784092051gmail_quote"><br></div><div =
>class=3D"yiv1784092051gmail_quote"><br></div><div class=3D"yiv1784092051gma=
>il_quote">
>to Mr. Jay K </div>
><div class=3D"yiv1784092051gmail_quote"><br></div><div class=3D"yiv17840920=
>51gmail_quote">I recommend you seek poor schools in your Area, that might b=
>e in need of a computer, and provide them it so that the kids can learn lin=
>ux or whatever.</div><div class=3D"yiv1784092051gmail_quote">
>
><br></div><div class=3D"yiv1784092051gmail_quote">this would reduce shippin=
>g cost, as for ssh, perhaps they won't have a public IP, but you should sti=
>ll be able to login, if you install hamachi or a similar product in both en=
>ds.</div>
>
><div class=3D"yiv1784092051gmail_quote"><br></div><div class=3D"yiv17840920=
>51gmail_quote">I'm sure there are schools in your zipcode that don't have a=
>ccess to a  server like the one you mention.</div><div class=3D"yiv17840920=
>51gmail_quote"><br></div><div class=3D"yiv1784092051gmail_quote">
>
>or maybe a community college or government-run university ?</div><div class=
>=3D"yiv1784092051gmail_quote"><br></div><div class=3D"yiv1784092051gmail_qu=
>ote">good luck</div><div class=3D"yiv1784092051gmail_quote"><br></div><div =
>class=3D"yiv1784092051gmail_quote">I'd help you myself, but I live too far =
>away, unfortunately.</div>
>
><div class=3D"yiv1784092051gmail_quote"><br></div><div class=3D"yiv17840920=
>51gmail_quote"><br></div><div class=3D"yiv1784092051gmail_quote"><br></div>=
><div class=3D"yiv1784092051gmail_quote">2011/6/27  <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a=
> rel=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"mailto:m3devel-request at elegosoft.com" target=
>=3D"_blank" href=3D"/mc/compose?to=3Dm3devel-request at elegosoft.com">m3devel=
>-request at elegosoft.com</a>></span><br>
>
><blockquote class=3D"yiv1784092051gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px so=
>lid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Send=
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>ft.com</a><br>
><br>
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><br>
>Today's Topics:<br>
><br>
>   1. Re: hardware/software sales.. AlphaServer DS10L, Tru64<br>
>      (Daniel Alejandro Benavides D.)<br>
>   2. Re: M3devel Digest, Vol 56, Issue 29 (felipe valdez)<br>
><br>
><br>
>----------------------------------------------------------------------<br>
><br>
>Message: 1<br>
>Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 17:50:12 +0100 (BST)<br>
>From: "Daniel Alejandro Benavides D." <<a rel=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"ma=
>ilto:dabenavidesd at yahoo.es" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"/mc/compose?to=3Ddabe=
>navidesd at yahoo.es">dabenavidesd at yahoo.es</a>><br>
>Subject: Re: [M3devel] hardware/software sales.. AlphaServer DS10L,<br>
>        Tru64<br>
>To: m3devel <<a rel=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"mailto:m3devel at elegosoft.com=
>" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"/mc/compose?to=3Dm3devel at elegosoft.com">m3devel=
>@elegosoft.com</a>>, Jay K <<a rel=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"mailto:jay=
>.krell at cornell.edu" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"/mc/compose?to=3Djay.krell at co=
>rnell.edu">jay.krell at cornell.edu</a>><br>
>Message-ID:<br>
>        <<a rel=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"mailto:1309193412.10741.YahooMai=
>lClassic at web29701.mail.ird.yahoo.com" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"/mc/compose=
>?to=3D1309193412.10741.YahooMailClassic at web29701.mail.ird.yahoo.com">130919=
>3412.10741.YahooMailClassic at web29701.mail.ird.yahoo.com</a>><br>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1"<br>
><br>
>Hi all:<br>
>completely forgot the Win9* systems, perhaps the idea is not bad at all, si=
>cne many of those machines were in emerging markets already and maybe still=
> there:<br>
><a rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"http://www.cs.tut.fi/lintula/=
>manual/modula3/modula-3/html/m3ug-oopsla94/summary.html">http://www.cs.tut.=
>fi/lintula/manual/modula3/modula-3/html/m3ug-oopsla94/summary.html</a><br>
><br>
>Finally a word about of Juno-2, if the most important of tools is that, the=
>re is a way to do it, I run it on cygwinb20, it runs smoothly, interesting =
>tough to see it on a Chicago/PC!<br>
><br>
>Thanks in advance<br>
><br>
>--- El vie, 24/6/11, Daniel Alejandro Benavides D. <<a rel=3D"nofollow" =
>ymailto=3D"mailto:dabenavidesd at yahoo.es" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"/mc/comp=
>ose?to=3Ddabenavidesd at yahoo.es">dabenavidesd at yahoo.es</a>> escribi?:<br>
><br>
>De: Daniel Alejandro Benavides D. <<a rel=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"mailto=
>:dabenavidesd at yahoo.es" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"/mc/compose?to=3Ddabenavi=
>desd at yahoo.es">dabenavidesd at yahoo.es</a>><br>
>Asunto: Re: [M3devel] hardware/software sales.. AlphaServer DS10L, Tru64<br=
>>
>Para: "m3devel" <<a rel=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"mailto:m3devel at elegosoft=
>.com" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"/mc/compose?to=3Dm3devel at elegosoft.com">m3d=
>evel at elegosoft.com</a>>, "Jay K" <<a rel=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"mail=
>to:jay.krell at cornell.edu" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"/mc/compose?to=3Djay.kr=
>ell at cornell.edu">jay.krell at cornell.edu</a>><br>
>Fecha: viernes, 24 de junio, 2011 20:15<br>
><br>
>Hi all:<br>
>I know it may sound odd, but how about installing the full working M3 syste=
>m on every one of it (thus you kind of sell the as a CM3 server of its own =
>win*/*ix flavor) , does someone can create such a server (through potential=
> SPIN OS Sphinix)? I mean code generate for every platform on each row, or =
>if you have multiple OS then built a matrix hw x OS<br>
>
>
><br>
>OS??????? | Linux | FreeBSD | OpenBSD | Tru64 | Mac OSX | NT4.0 | HP-UX | A=
>IX<br>
>HW?????? -----------+---------------+----------------+----------+----------=
>------+----------+-----------+-------<br>
>DECaxp?? o????? | ?????? o?????? |??????? o??????? | ???<br>
> o???? | ????? +? ? ? ? | ? ?? x ?? | ? ?? + ?? |?? +??????<br>
>i86pc??????? o????? | ?????? o?????? | ?????? o??????? | ??? +??? | ?????? =
>x??????? | ???? x??? | ???? x ?? | ? +<br>
>i86smp???? o????? |??????? o?????? | ?????? o??????? | ??? + ?? |<br>
> ?????? o? ? ? ? |? ? ? x ?? | ?? ? x ?? |?? + ??? Ppc ???????? o?????? |??=
>???? o?????? |???????? o?????? |????? +??? |?????? o??????? |????? x??? |??=
>???? +?? |??? o<br>
><br>
><br>
>I myself would need some help to install any of those systems, so if you co=
>uld build? the system in itself would be wonderful. Best than that perhaps =
>with alternate multiBoot and/or in original conditions.<br>
><br>
>Thanks in advance<br>
><br>
>--- El vie, 24/6/11,<br>
> Jay K <<a rel=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"mailto:jay.krell at cornell.edu" tar=
>get=3D"_blank" href=3D"/mc/compose?to=3Djay.krell at cornell.edu">jay.krell at co=
>rnell.edu</a>> escribi?:<br>
><br>
>De: Jay K <<a rel=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"mailto:jay.krell at cornell.edu" =
>target=3D"_blank" href=3D"/mc/compose?to=3Djay.krell at cornell.edu">jay.krell=
>@cornell.edu</a>><br>
>Asunto: [M3devel] hardware/software sales.. AlphaServer DS10L, Tru64<br>
>Para: "m3devel" <<a rel=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"mailto:m3devel at elegosoft=
>.com" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"/mc/compose?to=3Dm3devel at elegosoft.com">m3d=
>evel at elegosoft.com</a>><br>
>Fecha: viernes, 24 de junio, 2011 15:55<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
>sorry if this is too repititive.<br>
><br>
><br>
>I have two AlphaServer DS10Ls.<br>
>I believe they both work.<br>
>They have CPU and memory.<br>
>And maybe hard drive.<br>
>? one had a problem with the hard drive I think and I was/am mid-replacing =
>it.<br>
>And maybe optical drive -- one has it. I was mid-moving it to other to inst=
>all from CD.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
>They can run any of: Linux, NetBSD, OpenBSD, FreeBSD, VMS, Tru64, Windows (=
>NT 4.0).<br>
><br>
><br>
>I can throw in one complete copy of Tru64 5.1b. Box. Manuals. CDs.<br>
><br>
>Cost is that we split shipping to US.<br>
><br>
>And ideally you let me ssh in, get Modula-3 up-and-running, maybe leave it =
>as Hudson node.<br>
>? I.e. you provide space and electricity. At least temporarily. Space, real=
>ly.<br>
><br>
><br>
>We already got Tru64 (re)working within the past year. On older versions.<b=
>r>
>NT 4.0 is too much work, until/unless we have a C backend. And then it woul=
>d be interesting, really. I can provide/acquire NT<br>
> 4.0/Alpha.<br>
>VMS is almost done. And otherwise available to me..but seemingly very slow.=
> I'd like to give it another chance on another machine.<br>
>The others should all be easy and I would bother with doing them.<br>
>? Hudson wouldn't likely be viable on OpenBSD, NetBSD, FreeBSD.<br>
>? Hudson should be easily viable on Linux (Debian 5.0; current Gentoo) and =
>maybe others (VMS? Tru64?).<br>
><br>
>I can also provide for half shipping to USA:<br>
>?Mac laptop for PPC_LINUX<br>
>?PC laptops for I386_LINUX, I386_OPENBSD.<br>
><br>
><br>
>But I might set those back up.<br>
><br>
><br>
>?- Jay<br>
><br>
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>Message: 2<br>
>Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 18:31:09 -0500<br>
>From: felipe valdez <<a rel=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"mailto:felipevaldez@=
>gmail.com" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"/mc/compose?to=3Dfelipevaldez at gmail.co=
>m">felipevaldez at gmail.com</a>><br>
>Subject: Re: [M3devel] M3devel Digest, Vol 56, Issue 29<br>
>To: <a rel=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"mailto:m3devel at elegosoft.com" target=3D"=
>_blank" href=3D"/mc/compose?to=3Dm3devel at elegosoft.com">m3devel at elegosoft.c=
>om</a><br>
>Message-ID: <<a rel=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"mailto:BANLkTinc3Nk9NLQTBbAN=
>-fDhyHDGtjeb6g at mail.gmail.com" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"/mc/compose?to=3DB=
>ANLkTinc3Nk9NLQTBbAN-fDhyHDGtjeb6g at mail.gmail.com">BANLkTinc3Nk9NLQTBbAN-fD=
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><br>
>in an interesting conversation with a friend of mine, we compared GO and<br=
>>
>Modula-3<br>
>I said that the main difference, is that the GO people want their language<=
>br>
>used by other people, but the Modula-3 people seemed too busy to try to gro=
>w<br>
>the community, by providing an easy to use installer on windows.<br>
><br>
>this lead me to think hard, because, I'm not sure of what efforts have been=
><br>
>made, to grow the community.<br>
><br>
>is anybody in this list actively working on this?<br>
><br>
>is having a larger modula3 community, desirable?<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
>2011/6/25 <<a rel=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"mailto:m3devel-request at elegoso=
>ft.com" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"/mc/compose?to=3Dm3devel-request at elegosof=
>t.com">m3devel-request at elegosoft.com</a>><br>
><br>
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>gosoft.com</a><br>
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>><br>
>> Today's Topics:<br>
>><br>
>>   1. hardware/software sales.. AlphaServer DS10L, Tru64 (Jay K)<br>
>>   2. Re: hardware/software sales.. AlphaServer DS10L, Tru64<br>
>>      (Daniel Alejandro Benavides D.)<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------=
><br>
>><br>
>> Message: 1<br>
>> Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 20:55:50 +0000<br>
>> From: Jay K <<a rel=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"mailto:jay.krell at cornel=
>l.edu" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"/mc/compose?to=3Djay.krell at cornell.edu">ja=
>y.krell at cornell.edu</a>><br>
>> Subject: [M3devel] hardware/software sales.. AlphaServer DS10L, Tru64<=
>br>
>> To: m3devel <<a rel=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"mailto:m3devel at elegosof=
>t.com" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"/mc/compose?to=3Dm3devel at elegosoft.com">m3=
>devel at elegosoft.com</a>><br>
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>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1"<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> sorry if this is too repititive.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> I have two AlphaServer DS10Ls.<br>
>> I believe they both work.<br>
>> They have CPU and memory.<br>
>> And maybe hard drive.<br>
>>  one had a problem with the hard drive I think and I was/am mid-replac=
>ing<br>
>> it.<br>
>> And maybe optical drive -- one has it. I was mid-moving it to other to=
><br>
>> install from CD.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> They can run any of: Linux, NetBSD, OpenBSD, FreeBSD, VMS, Tru64, Wind=
>ows<br>
>> (NT 4.0).<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> I can throw in one complete copy of Tru64 5.1b. Box. Manuals. CDs.<br>
>><br>
>> Cost is that we split shipping to US.<br>
>><br>
>> And ideally you let me ssh in, get Modula-3 up-and-running, maybe leav=
>e it<br>
>> as Hudson node.<br>
>>  I.e. you provide space and electricity. At least temporarily. Space,<=
>br>
>> really.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> We already got Tru64 (re)working within the past year. On older versio=
>ns.<br>
>> NT 4.0 is too much work, until/unless we have a C backend. And then it=
><br>
>> would be interesting, really. I can provide/acquire NT 4.0/Alpha.<br>
>> VMS is almost done. And otherwise available to me..but seemingly very =
>slow.<br>
>> I'd like to give it another chance on another machine.<br>
>> The others should all be easy and I would bother with doing them.<br>
>>  Hudson wouldn't likely be viable on OpenBSD, NetBSD, FreeBSD.<br>
>>  Hudson should be easily viable on Linux (Debian 5.0; current Gentoo) =
>and<br>
>> maybe others (VMS? Tru64?).<br>
>><br>
>> I can also provide for half shipping to USA:<br>
>>  Mac laptop for PPC_LINUX<br>
>>  PC laptops for I386_LINUX, I386_OPENBSD.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> But I might set those back up.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>>  - Jay<br>
>><br>
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>> Message: 2<br>
>> Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 02:15:02 +0100 (BST)<br>
>> From: "Daniel Alejandro Benavides D." <<a rel=3D"nofollow" ymailto=
>=3D"mailto:dabenavidesd at yahoo.es" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"/mc/compose?to=
>=3Ddabenavidesd at yahoo.es">dabenavidesd at yahoo.es</a>><br>
>> Subject: Re: [M3devel] hardware/software sales.. AlphaServer DS10L,<br=
>>
>>        Tru64<br>
>> To: m3devel <<a rel=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"mailto:m3devel at elegosof=
>t.com" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"/mc/compose?to=3Dm3devel at elegosoft.com">m3=
>devel at elegosoft.com</a>>, Jay K <<a rel=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"mailt=
>o:jay.krell at cornell.edu" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"/mc/compose?to=3Djay.kre=
>ll at cornell.edu">jay.krell at cornell.edu</a>><br>
>> Message-ID:<br>
>>        <<a rel=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"mailto:1308964502.58199.Yaho=
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>08964502.58199.YahooMailClassic at web29706.mail.ird.yahoo.com</a>><br>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1"<br>
>><br>
>> Hi all:<br>
>> I know it may sound odd, but how about installing the full working M3<=
>br>
>> system on every one of it (thus you kind of sell the as a CM3 server o=
>f its<br>
>> own win*/*ix flavor) , does someone can create such a server (through<=
>br>
>> potential SPIN OS Sphinix)? I mean code generate for every platform on=
> each<br>
>> row, or if you have multiple OS then built a matrix hw x OS<br>
>><br>
>> OS??????? | Linux | FreeBSD | OpenBSD | Tru64 | Mac OSX | NT4.0 | HP-U=
>X |<br>
>> AIX<br>
>> HW??????<br>
>> -----------+---------------+----------------+----------+--------------=
>--+----------+-----------+-------<br>
>> DECaxp?? o????? | ?????? o?????? |??????? o??????? | ??? o???? | ?????=
> +? ?<br>
>> ? ? | ? ?? x ?? | ? ?? + ?? |?? +??????<br>
>> i86pc??????? o????? | ?????? o?????? | ?????? o??????? | ??? +??? | ??=
>????<br>
>> x??????? | ???? x??? | ???? x ?? | ? +<br>
>> i86smp???? o????? |??????? o?????? | ?????? o??????? | ??? + ?? | ????=
>?? o?<br>
>> ? ? ? |? ? ? x ?? | ?? ? x ?? |?? + ??? Ppc ???????? o?????? |?????? o=
>??????<br>
>> |???????? o?????? |????? +??? |?????? o??????? |????? x??? |?????? +??=
> |???<br>
>> o<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> I myself would need some help to install any of those systems, so if y=
>ou<br>
>> could build? the system in itself would be wonderful. Best than that p=
>erhaps<br>
>> with alternate multiBoot and/or in original conditions.<br>
>><br>
>> Thanks in advance<br>
>><br>
>> --- El vie, 24/6/11, Jay K <<a rel=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"mailto:j=
>ay.krell at cornell.edu" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"/mc/compose?to=3Djay.krell@=
>cornell.edu">jay.krell at cornell.edu</a>> escribi?:<br>
>><br>
>> De: Jay K <<a rel=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"mailto:jay.krell at cornell.=
>edu" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"/mc/compose?to=3Djay.krell at cornell.edu">jay.=
>krell at cornell.edu</a>><br>
>> Asunto: [M3devel] hardware/software sales.. AlphaServer DS10L, Tru64<b=
>r>
>> Para: "m3devel" <<a rel=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"mailto:m3devel at eleg=
>osoft.com" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"/mc/compose?to=3Dm3devel at elegosoft.com=
>">m3devel at elegosoft.com</a>><br>
>> Fecha: viernes, 24 de junio, 2011 15:55<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> sorry if this is too repititive.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> I have two AlphaServer DS10Ls.<br>
>> I believe they both work.<br>
>> They have CPU and memory.<br>
>> And maybe hard drive.<br>
>> ? one had a problem with the hard drive I think and I was/am mid-repla=
>cing<br>
>> it.<br>
>> And maybe optical drive -- one has it. I was mid-moving it to other to=
><br>
>> install from CD.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> They can run any of: Linux, NetBSD, OpenBSD, FreeBSD, VMS, Tru64, Wind=
>ows<br>
>> (NT 4.0).<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> I can throw in one complete copy of Tru64 5.1b. Box. Manuals. CDs.<br>
>><br>
>> Cost is that we split shipping to US.<br>
>><br>
>> And ideally you let me ssh in, get Modula-3 up-and-running, maybe leav=
>e it<br>
>> as Hudson node.<br>
>> ? I.e. you provide space and electricity. At least temporarily. Space,=
><br>
>> really.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> We already got Tru64 (re)working within the past year. On older versio=
>ns.<br>
>> NT 4.0 is too much work, until/unless we have a C backend. And then it=
><br>
>> would be interesting, really. I can provide/acquire NT 4.0/Alpha.<br>
>> VMS is almost done. And otherwise available to me..but seemingly very =
>slow.<br>
>> I'd like to give it another chance on another machine.<br>
>> The others should all be easy and I would bother with doing them.<br>
>> ? Hudson wouldn't likely be viable on OpenBSD, NetBSD, FreeBSD.<br>
>> ? Hudson should be easily viable on Linux (Debian 5.0; current Gentoo)=
> and<br>
>> maybe others (VMS? Tru64?).<br>
>><br>
>> I can also provide for half shipping to USA:<br>
>> ?Mac laptop for PPC_LINUX<br>
>> ?PC laptops for I386_LINUX, I386_OPENBSD.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> But I might set those back up.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> ?- Jay<br>
>><br>
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