[M3devel] hardware/software sales.. AlphaServer DS10L, Tru64

[Daniel Alejandro Benavides D.]

Hi all:
perhaps, you could check if this recording makes sense, i says at the beginning is an excerpt (So a good idea would get a copy of the original).

http://www.open-video.org/details.php?videoid=8026

Anyway, the major critics of this is the supposed to be low speed of execution, I think if this run on a Win9* pc, I can just to conclude that:
1. The system is functional enough to run in a 199* system.
2. The critics are true if the system is stress-tested (see 1 for this info)
3. The idea behind the constraint solver is not enough compiler-enabled optimized for today's applied benchmarks

If the above is true then there might be some techniques to make that happen In example tune the compiler as they did in development.

As it hasn't been too much updated besides a JVM-based backend there is a big question how much of this is good to pick, but JVM-based backend 
http://moscova.inria.fr/~leifer/articles/srcreport.html

doesn't handle the constraint solver at all. So we might check what have been the main constraint solver techniques developed for that purpose (lately logic analyzers, but sold as a kit, perhaps doable on Modula-3, perhaps and ASIP but can we build one of such, perhaps yes with some library called m3tools):
http://members.tripod.com/srini_seetharam/thesis.pdf

Back indee in DEC-SRC they offered to license the toolkit in other platforms, perhaps somebody would asked about it, I'm not aware of that but it seems they could seek that in the future.

Thanks in advance

--- El mié, 29/6/11, Hendrik Boom <hendrik at topoi.pooq.com> escribió:

> De: Hendrik Boom <hendrik at topoi.pooq.com>
> Asunto: Re: [M3devel] hardware/software sales.. AlphaServer DS10L, Tru64
> Para: m3devel at elegosoft.com
> Fecha: miércoles, 29 de junio, 2011 20:35
> On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 09:55:34PM
> +0000, Jay K wrote:
> > 
> >   > completely forgot the Win9*
> systems  
> > 
> >   That is probably best -- to just
> forget it.  
> 
> I still have a working windows 95 system.  I turn it
> on once in a blue moon.
> It dual-boots Windows 95 and linux.  If it would
> really be useful, I could try 
> Moduls-3-ing on it, but it is probably not be worth the
> effort.
> 
> > 
> > 
> >    > Finally a word about of Juno-2, if
> the most important of tools is that, 
> > there is a way to do it, I run it on cygwinb20, it
> runs smoothly, 
> > interesting tough to see it on a Chicago/PC! 
> 
> I've never figured out waht Juno is supposed to do.  I
> tried running it once, and 
> it was most mysterious.
> 
> -- hendrik
>