[M3devel] Fw: UTF-16: Greek alphabet with CM3
Jay K
jay.krell at cornell.edu
Sat Nov 30 09:26:29 CET 2013
Right, In this respect, everything probably just works and always has.
Just don't try to display any two non-English languages in a GUI at once.
I think we should port Trestle to use 16 bit characters always internally.
Even going so far as to double the memory use of common English strings.
Can anyone vouch for XDrawString16 generally being implemented and working?
- Jay
> Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2013 00:46:55 -0500
> From: hendrik at topoi.pooq.com
> To: m3devel at elegosoft.com
> Subject: Re: [M3devel] Fw: UTF-16: Greek alphabet with CM3
>
> On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 07:47:55AM +0100, Olaf Wagner wrote:
> > I know that there have been controverse discussions about the right
> > way to do unicode support.
> >
> > Is there any way to help Elmar Stellnberger with a quick solution?
>
> See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO/IEC_8859-7
> It seems there's an eight-bit code that's enough for the Greek language.
> So in theory all you need to do is set the right environment variables
> to specify a Greek character set. In practice you might have to define
> the geometry fot the Greek characters for Trestle. Unless it manages
> to use the underlying OS support for this.
>
> -- hendrik
>
>
> >
> > Olaf
> >
> > Begin forwarded message:
> >
> > Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2013 20:13:54 +0100
> > From: Elmar Stellnberger <estellnb at elstel.org>
> > To: m3-support at elego.de
> > Subject: UTF-16: Greek alphabet with CM3
> >
> >
> > Dear Supporters of CM3, Elegosoft
> >
> > Wanting to make use of CM3s new UTF-16 feature I have tried to use
> > greek letters by VAL(945+code,WIDECHAR) where 945 is alpha and 946 is
> > beta in the unicode table. However I soon had to notice that outputing
> > widechars is not supported by Trestle which still seems to be based on
> > X11R4. Some analysis of the problem has shown that TextVBT calls
> > VBT.PaintText which does however use the CHAR type internally rather
> > than Widechar calling PaintSub to output text instead of the X11R6
> > function XDrawString16. Is it true that you plan real unicode support
> > for CM3 or is there any way to hack the trestle toolkit into allowing
> > X11R6 functions? If yes or no how could I convert current X11R6 includes
> > for being used with Modula-3? Nonetheless I would really welcome true
> > native utf-16 support (as nowadays given by the iso10646-1 X core fonts
> > like also 'fixed') because that would be the only way to make use of
> > utf-16 for Windows ports. Otherwise I will have to consider whether I
> > can use Modula-3 at all for my current project which is about converting
> > the automaton simulator www.elstel.org/coan from Object Pascal into a
> > currently supported language and publishing it as open source.
> > Thanks a lot for your effort!
> >
> > Yours,
> > Elmar Stellnberger
> > --
> > Olaf Wagner -- elego Software Solutions GmbH -- http://www.elegosoft.com
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