[M3devel] On the way to release other packages in GPL?

Fri Sep 1 22:59:30 CEST 2017

Yeah I didn't mean to imply anything about GPL (or BSD, even, even though
I agree with Jay---I would much prefer that myself, I think that would be 
an ideal outcome, because you can always incorporate BSD software in a 
GPL distribution if that is what you want to do).

The problem as I see it is that the old SRC license has one or two clauses that
make the M3 license effectively "non-free".  Someone with legal authority would
have to give permission to license the system without those clauses.  Ideally
just remove them, in which case I seem to remember the license wouldn't be too
far from BSD...

    Mika

Jay K writes:
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>Please no. A relicense would be nice though-- BSD.
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>- Jay
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>Wait, there is a serious move toward releasing under GPL?   Or have I misun=
>derstood this email.
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>> On Sep 1, 2017, at 6:30 PM, mika at async.caltech.edu wrote:
>>
>>
>> Is there some consensus on what precisely needs to be extracted in terms
>> of a release?  The Linux discussion earlier on this list made no sense
>> to me, it almost sounded like someone was wilfully misinterpreting the
>> plain English of the legalese.
>>
>> Also who is/has been the best lead so far?  I can see if I can find
>> someone through various connections...
>>
>>    Mika
>>
>> Hendrik Boom writes:
>>> On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 05:27:16PM +0000, Daniel Alejandro Benavides D. =
>wro=3D
>>> te:
>>>> Hello:I fear most viable way to keep te language alive is to GPL it . S=
>oo=3D
>>> n we wont have the resortes to keep alive. Im not understimating anyone =
>her=3D
>>> e. But IMHO is de time to do it.=3DA0Thanks in advance
>>>
>>> Any GPL-compatible license will work.  Even MIT.  Possibly even the =3D
>>>
>>> so-called Creative Commons variation on public domain, which is =3D
>>>
>>> meaningful in jurisdictions without a concept of public domain.
>>>
>>> The hard part is liberating the parts of the system that are currently =
>=3D
>>>
>>> inder the existing Modula 3 license.  They will have to be replaced if =
>=3D
>>>
>>> we can't get the copyright owner to respond usefully.
>>>
>>> And that's a lot of work.
>>>
>>> -- hendrik
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> M3devel at elegosoft.com
>>> https://m3lists.elegosoft.com/mailman/listinfo/m3devel
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><div class=3D"PlainText">Wait, there is a serious move toward releasing und=
>er GPL?   Or have I misunderstood this email.<br>
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>> On Sep 1, 2017, at 6:30 PM, mika at async.caltech.edu wrote:<br>
>> <br>
>> <br>
>> Is there some consensus on what precisely needs to be extracted in ter=
>ms<br>
>> of a release?  The Linux discussion earlier on this list made no =
>sense<br>
>> to me, it almost sounded like someone was wilfully misinterpreting the=
><br>
>> plain English of the legalese.<br>
>> <br>
>> Also who is/has been the best lead so far?  I can see if I can fi=
>nd<br>
>> someone through various connections...<br>
>> <br>
>>    Mika<br>
>> <br>
>> Hendrik Boom writes:<br>
>>> On Mon, Aug 28, 2017 at 05:27:16PM +0000, Daniel Alejandro Ben=
>avides D. wro=3D<br>
>>> te:<br>
>>>> Hello:I fear most viable way to keep te language alive is to G=
>PL it . Soo=3D<br>
>>> n we wont have the resortes to keep alive. Im not understimating a=
>nyone her=3D<br>
>>> e. But IMHO is de time to do it.=3DA0Thanks in advance<br>
>>> <br>
>>> Any GPL-compatible license will work.  Even MIT.  Possib=
>ly even the =3D<br>
>>> <br>
>>> so-called Creative Commons variation on public domain, which is =
>=3D<br>
>>> <br>
>>> meaningful in jurisdictions without a concept of public domain.<br=
>>
>>> <br>
>>> The hard part is liberating the parts of the system that are curre=
>ntly =3D<br>
>>> <br>
>>> inder the existing Modula 3 license.  They will have to be re=
>placed if =3D<br>
>>> <br>
>>> we can't get the copyright owner to respond usefully.<br>
>>> <br>
>>> And that's a lot of work.<br>
>>> <br>
>>> -- hendrik<br>
>>> _______________________________________________<br>
>>> M3devel mailing list<br>
>>> M3devel at elegosoft.com<br>
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