[M3devel] Re: porting m3 on intel mac

Antony Hosking hosking at cs.purdue.edu
Sun Jan 21 23:40:34 CET 2007


PS:  It looks like there are issues with the XCode 2.4.x assembler:

	http://www.mail-archive.com/fink-devel@lists.sourceforge.net/ 
msg14326.html

Let me see what else I can dig up.

On 21/01/2007, at 5:32 PM, Antony Hosking wrote:

> On 21/01/2007, at 5:06 PM, Renzo Orsini wrote:
>
>>
>> On Jan 21, 2007, at 22:57, Antony Hosking wrote:
>>
>>> For some reason your .stabs entries are different than mine, but  
>>> otherwise the assembler files are the same.  Are you using the  
>>> cm3cg and cm3.cfg from my ftp site?
>>
>> Yes, downloaded a few hours ago.
>>
>>
>>>   Here is the version of the assembler that I have on my Intel Mac:
>>>
>>> Apple Computer, Inc. version cctools-590.42.1.obj~1, GNU  
>>> assembler version 1.38
>>
>> The mine is:
>>
>> Apple Computer, Inc. version cctools-622.5.obj~13, GNU assembler  
>> version 1.38
>> (If it useful, my Xcode is 2.4.1, with Xcode IDE: 762.0, Xcode  
>> Core: 762.0, ToolSupport: 764.0, [From About XCode menu])
>>
>
> Hmmm -- different versions of the assembler.  Probably some flag  
> needs adjusting.
>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> With respect to zeus, can you build with -verbose in the zeus  
>>> directory and send me the output?  Sounds like one of the tools  
>>> is not getting built properly.
>>>
>>
>> Ok, I am sending it as attachment
>>
>> <zeusoutput.txt.zip>
>>
>
> Sorry, wrong option.  Please run with -commands.  I suspect stubgen  
> is failing for you.
>
>
>> Renzo
>>
>>
>>> On 21/01/2007, at 4:47 PM, Renzo Orsini wrote:
>>>
>>>> You can find in the attachment the program and the compilation.
>>>>
>>>> Renzo
>>>>
>>>> <Archive.zip>
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 21, 2007, at 22:34, Antony Hosking wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 21/01/2007, at 4:27 PM, Renzo Orsini wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jan 21, 2007, at 21:49, Antony Hosking wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 21/01/2007, at 7:59 AM, Renzo Orsini wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hello and lot of thanks!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Everything is working really fine!
>>>>>>>> The configuration: MacBookPro, MacOSX 10.4.8, XCode 2.4.1  
>>>>>>>> (gcc 4.0.1), X11 installed, latest cm3 sources (with  
>>>>>>>> anonymous CVS),
>>>>>>>> The process:
>>>>>>>> 1. unpacked cm3-min-POSIX-PPC_DARWIN-5.4.0.tgz
>>>>>>>> 2. installed as super-user (every answer left as default,  
>>>>>>>> the only problem is the fact that motif is missing, ignoring)
>>>>>>>> 3. replacing cm3, cm3.cfg, cm3cg from ftp:// 
>>>>>>>> ftp.cs.purdue.edu/pub/hosking/m3/I386_DARWIN
>>>>>>>> 3. running as su:
>>>>>>>>       do-cm3-core.sh buildship
>>>>>>>>       install-cm3-compiler.sh upgrade
>>>>>>>>       do-cm3-std.sh buildship
>>>>>>>> everything is ok a part from producing about a zillion of  
>>>>>>>> assembler (?) warnings ("xxx.ms:nnn:indirect jmp without `*'),
>>>>>>>> and failing at the end the compilation of package zeus  
>>>>>>>> (which I suppose is an old issue)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That's odd since my builds go through cleanly.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is an example of the strange "indirect jump" message:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> pborsini:~/ProveModula3 orsini$ cat Main.m3
>>>>>> MODULE Main; IMPORT IO; BEGIN IO.Put("Hello World\n"); END Main.
>>>>>> pborsini:~/ProveModula3 orsini$ cm3
>>>>>> --- building in I386_DARWIN ---
>>>>>> new source -> compiling Main.m3
>>>>>> Main.ms:101:indirect jmp without `*'
>>>>>> -> linking prog
>>>>>> _m3main.ms:74:indirect jmp without `*'
>>>>>> _m3main.ms:89:indirect jmp without `*'
>>>>>> _m3main.ms:108:indirect jmp without `*'
>>>>>> pborsini:~/ProveModula3 orsini$ ./I386_DARWIN/prog
>>>>>> Hello World
>>>>>>
>>>>>> maybe there is some problem with the linker parameters,  
>>>>>> however the progrum runs ok.
>>>>>
>>>>> Can you compile with "-keep" and send me the relevant .ms  
>>>>> file?  I can compare with mine.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For what concerns zeus: the following is the output of cm3:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> === package /Users/orsini/modula3/cvsstuff/cm3/m3-ui/zeus ===
>>>>>> +++ cm3 -build -override -DROOT='/Users/orsini/modula3/ 
>>>>>> cvsstuff/cm3'  +++
>>>>>> --- building in I386_DARWIN ---
>>>>>>
>>>>>> new source -> compiling RemoteView_T_v1.i3
>>>>>> "../I386_DARWIN/RemoteView_T_v1.i3", line 1: syntax error:  
>>>>>> missing INTERFACE or MODULE keyword
>>>>>> "../I386_DARWIN/RemoteView_T_v1.i3", line 1: unable to find  
>>>>>> interface (<missing id>)
>>>>>> "../I386_DARWIN/RemoteView_T_v1.i3", line 1: warning: file  
>>>>>> name (RemoteView_T_v1.i3) doesn't match module name (<missing  
>>>>>> id>)
>>>>>> 2 errors and 1 warning encountered
>>>>>> new source -> compiling RemoteView_T_v1.m3
>>>>>> "../I386_DARWIN/RemoteView_T_v1.m3", line 1: syntax error:  
>>>>>> missing INTERFACE or MODULE keyword
>>>>>> "../I386_DARWIN/RemoteView_T_v1.m3", line 1: unable to find  
>>>>>> interface (<missing id>)
>>>>>> "../I386_DARWIN/RemoteView_T_v1.m3", line 1: warning: file  
>>>>>> name (RemoteView_T_v1.m3) doesn't match module name (<missing  
>>>>>> id>)
>>>>>> 2 errors and 1 warning encountered
>>>>>> compilation failed => not building library "libm3zeus.a"
>>>>>> Fatal Error: package build failed
>>>>>> *** execution of  failed ***
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (and the files RemoteView_T_v1.i3 and RemoteView_T_v1.m3 are  
>>>>>> empty in I386_DARWIN, and they do not exists in src)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Several other packages cannot be compiled, like many obliq  
>>>>>> ones, webvt, June and mentor.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> However the compiler seems to work for compiling my stuff,  
>>>>>> altough I have to make a few corrections and debugging.
>>>>>
>>>>> This sounds problematic since it implies that the generators  
>>>>> for those files are not working correctly.  (If you run with "- 
>>>>> commands" you'll see which generator programs are being used.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Renzo
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So, thank again to all and each of you, I am now very happy  
>>>>>>>> and busy by bringing our old modula-3 software to the new  
>>>>>>>> century!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cordially,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Renzo Orsini
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Jan 21, 2007, at 0:33, Darko wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The latest, 10.4.8, also the latest XCode, which I think  
>>>>>>>>> updates gcc. You were addressing me weren't you? But Renzo  
>>>>>>>>> might like to answer that question too. XCode weighs in at  
>>>>>>>>> about 1G, by the way.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 21/01/2007, at 7:58 AM, Antony Hosking wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> What version of OSX are you using?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 20/01/2007, at 5:49 PM, Darko wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> No worries. I'm not familiar at all with those scripts.  
>>>>>>>>>>> The problem you are having may be to do with not having  
>>>>>>>>>>> the latest source, but it most probably has to do with  
>>>>>>>>>>> the version of gcc that is active on your machine. C  
>>>>>>>>>>> files are not compiled by cm3 but rather call gcc  
>>>>>>>>>>> directly. I can't remember which version of gcc is the  
>>>>>>>>>>> correct one, but mine currently is i686-apple-darwin8- 
>>>>>>>>>>> gcc-4.0.1; also I can't remember the command line for  
>>>>>>>>>>> changing gcc versions. Tony may be able to help re the  
>>>>>>>>>>> correct version if 4.0.1 doesn't work. You may need to  
>>>>>>>>>>> install the latest XCode from http://developer.apple.com  
>>>>>>>>>>> if you don't have 4.01.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I've cc'd the list because they're actually very helpful  
>>>>>>>>>>> and my knowledge is limited...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> - Darko
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 21/01/2007, at 6:58 AM, Renzo Orsini wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> First of all, thank you very much for your immediate help!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I downloaded the files and replaced the corresponding / 
>>>>>>>>>>>> usr/local/cm3/bin files,
>>>>>>>>>>>> modified cm3.cfg by replacing INSTALL_ROOT = "/usr/local/ 
>>>>>>>>>>>> cm3-i386/" with INSTALL_ROOT = "/usr/local/cm3/"
>>>>>>>>>>>> then in the full source (last version, 5.4.0) I did:  
>>>>>>>>>>>> scripts/do-cm3-core.sh buildship
>>>>>>>>>>>> this is the result:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>  root#./do-cm3-core.sh buildship
>>>>>>>>>>>> CM3C =
>>>>>>>>>>>> /Users/orsini/cm3/cm3-src-all-5.4.0/scripts/pkgmap.sh -c  
>>>>>>>>>>>> "cm3 -build  -DROOT='/Users/orsini/cm3/cm3-src- 
>>>>>>>>>>>> all-5.4.0'  && cm3 -ship -DROOT='/Users/orsini/cm3/cm3- 
>>>>>>>>>>>> src-all-5.4.0' " m3gc-simple m3core libm3  
>>>>>>>>>>>> patternmatching m3middle m3linker m3front m3quake m3cc  
>>>>>>>>>>>> cm3 m3scanner m3tools m3cgcat m3cggen m3bundle bitvector  
>>>>>>>>>>>> digraph parseparams realgeometry set slisp  
>>>>>>>>>>>> sortedtableextras table-list tempfiles
>>>>>>>>>>>> === package /Users/orsini/cm3/cm3-src-all-5.4.0/m3-libs/ 
>>>>>>>>>>>> m3gc-simple ===
>>>>>>>>>>>> +++ cm3 -build  -DROOT='/Users/orsini/cm3/cm3-src- 
>>>>>>>>>>>> all-5.4.0'  && cm3 -ship -DROOT='/Users/orsini/cm3/cm3- 
>>>>>>>>>>>> src-all-5.4.0'  +++
>>>>>>>>>>>> --- building in I386_DARWIN ---
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> new source -> compiling RTVM.c
>>>>>>>>>>>> new source -> compiling sysdeps.c
>>>>>>>>>>>> new source -> compiling accept.c
>>>>>>>>>>>> ../src/runtime/I386_DARWIN/accept.c: In function  
>>>>>>>>>>>> 'm3_accept':
>>>>>>>>>>>> ../src/runtime/I386_DARWIN/accept.c:13: warning: pointer  
>>>>>>>>>>>> targets in passing argument 3 of 'accept' differ in  
>>>>>>>>>>>> signedness
>>>>>>>>>>>> new source -> compiling bind.c
>>>>>>>>>>>> new source -> compiling close.c
>>>>>>>>>>>> new source -> compiling connect.c
>>>>>>>>>>>> new source -> compiling dup.c
>>>>>>>>>>>> new source -> compiling dup2.c
>>>>>>>>>>>> new source -> compiling gethostbyaddr.c
>>>>>>>>>>>> new source -> compiling gethostbyname.c
>>>>>>>>>>>> new source -> compiling getpeername.c
>>>>>>>>>>>> ../src/runtime/I386_DARWIN/getpeername.c: In function  
>>>>>>>>>>>> 'm3_getpeername':
>>>>>>>>>>>> ../src/runtime/I386_DARWIN/getpeername.c:13: warning:  
>>>>>>>>>>>> pointer targets in passing argument 3 of 'getpeername'  
>>>>>>>>>>>> differ in signedness
>>>>>>>>>>>> new source -> compiling getsockname.c
>>>>>>>>>>>> ../src/runtime/I386_DARWIN/getsockname.c: In function  
>>>>>>>>>>>> 'm3_getsockname':
>>>>>>>>>>>> ../src/runtime/I386_DARWIN/getsockname.c:13: warning:  
>>>>>>>>>>>> pointer targets in passing argument 3 of 'getsockname'  
>>>>>>>>>>>> differ in signedness
>>>>>>>>>>>> new source -> compiling listen.c
>>>>>>>>>>>> new source -> compiling read.c
>>>>>>>>>>>> new source -> compiling recv.c
>>>>>>>>>>>> new source -> compiling recvfrom.c
>>>>>>>>>>>> ../src/runtime/I386_DARWIN/recvfrom.c: In function  
>>>>>>>>>>>> 'm3_recvfrom':
>>>>>>>>>>>> ../src/runtime/I386_DARWIN/recvfrom.c:15: warning:  
>>>>>>>>>>>> pointer targets in passing argument 6 of 'recvfrom'  
>>>>>>>>>>>> differ in signedness
>>>>>>>>>>>> new source -> compiling select.c
>>>>>>>>>>>> new source -> compiling send.c
>>>>>>>>>>>> new source -> compiling sendto.c
>>>>>>>>>>>> new source -> compiling shutdown.c
>>>>>>>>>>>> new source -> compiling socket.c
>>>>>>>>>>>> new source -> compiling write.c
>>>>>>>>>>>> -> archiving libm3gcdefs.a
>>>>>>>>>>>> ld: common symbols not allowed with MH_DYLIB output  
>>>>>>>>>>>> format with the -multi_module option
>>>>>>>>>>>> sysdeps.o definition of common _RTCSRC_FinishVM (size 16)
>>>>>>>>>>>> sysdeps.o definition of common _RTHeapRep_Fault (size 16)
>>>>>>>>>>>> /usr/bin/libtool: internal link edit command failed
>>>>>>>>>>>> --- shipping from I386_DARWIN ---
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> . => /usr/local/cm3/pkg/m3gc-simple/I386_DARWIN
>>>>>>>>>>>>   .M3EXPORTS        libm3gcdefs.5.2.dylib"/Users/orsini/ 
>>>>>>>>>>>> cm3/cm3-src-all-5.4.0/m3-libs/m3gc-simple/ 
>>>>>>>>>>>> I386_DARWIN/.M3SHIP", line 3: quake runtime error:  
>>>>>>>>>>>> unable to copy "libm3gcdefs.5.2.dylib" to "/usr/local/ 
>>>>>>>>>>>> cm3/pkg/m3gc-simple/I386_DARWIN/libm3gcdefs.5.2.dylib":  
>>>>>>>>>>>> errno=2
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --procedure--  -line-  -file---
>>>>>>>>>>>> install_file       --  <builtin>
>>>>>>>>>>>>                     3  /Users/orsini/cm3/cm3-src- 
>>>>>>>>>>>> all-5.4.0/m3-libs/m3gc-simple/I386_DARWIN/.M3SHIP
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Fatal Error: package build failed
>>>>>>>>>>>> *** execution of  failed ***
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ======
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I noticed that not all the .c files in .../m3-libs/m3gc- 
>>>>>>>>>>>> simple/src/runtime/I386_DARWIN/ where compiled, but I do  
>>>>>>>>>>>> not know if this is a normal behaviour.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks in advance for your time and patience!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Cordially
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Renzo Orsini
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 20, 2007, at 19:02, Darko wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Have a look here: ftp://ftp.cs.purdue.edu/pub/hosking/ 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> m3/I386_DARWIN/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> There you'll find the bits you need for Mac Intel.  
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Replace your existing cm3, cmcg and cm3.cfg with the  
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ones there, then you can compile the basic libraries  
>>>>>>>>>>>>> you need like m3core and libm3, but make sure you have  
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the latest sources.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think they're the latest but Tony may have something  
>>>>>>>>>>>>> more to say about that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Darko.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 21/01/2007, at 1:41 AM, Olaf Wagner wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Jan 20, 2007 at 03:05:55PM +0100, Renzo Orsini  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I  installed cm3-min-POSIX-PPC_DARWIN-5.4.0.tgz on an  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> intel mac, then
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tried to a compile a Hello world program, but the  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> compilation failed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with the following message:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pborsini:~/ProveModula3 orsini$ cm3
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --- building in PPC_DARWIN ---
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> new source -> compiling Main.m3
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "../Main.m3", line 4: warning: potentially unhandled  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exception: IO.Error
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1 warning encountered
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Main.ms:12:no such instruction: `mflr r0'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Main.ms:13:no such instruction: `stmw r30,-8(r1)'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Main.ms:14:no such instruction: `stw r0,8(r1)'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Main.ms:15:no such instruction: `stwu r1,-96(r1)'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Main.ms:16:no such instruction: `mr r30,r1'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Main.ms:17:no such instruction: `bcl  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 20,31,"L00000000001$pb"'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ....
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So I suppose there is PPC code to assemble and the  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rosetta emulator
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for PPC on intel macs cannot do anything for this!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Since I would like to port the Fibonacci language for  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> databases,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which is written in Modula-3, if I understand well  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the situation I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should port the Modula-3 compiler by cross compiling  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it on a PPC mac,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or something like that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am asking you if you know about some effort of  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> porting Modula-3 on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> intel macs, or at least if you let me know if this  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> operation is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> possible (and also reasonably feasible in terms of  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> expertise, given my teaching duties and my  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> difficulties with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> assembler languages!), and, if so, if you can point  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> me to the correct
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> documentation to start with. Of course I will be very  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> glad to give
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> back to the community the result if I succeed!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you very much for your attention.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cordially
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Renzo Orsini
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Associate Professor
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dipartimento di Informatica
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Universita' Ca' Foscari di Venezia
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well, I wouldn't have thought that you were even able  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to install
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the cm3-min-POSIX-PPC_DARWIN-5.4.0.tgz system on an  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Intel machine;
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's surely not supposed to run on one. It shouldn't  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be too
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> difficult to get a port of the latest CM3 for Darwin  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on Intel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> processors; I even think somebody was already working  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on it,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but I don't really remember who, so I forward your  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mail to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the m3devel list, in case others have already started  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> such an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> effort.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Olaf
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>>>>>>>>>> Antony Hosking                | Associate Professor
>>>>>>>>>> Dept of Computer Sciences     | Office: (765) 494-6001
>>>>>>>>>> Purdue University             | Mobile: (765) 427-5484
>>>>>>>>>> 250 N. University Street      | hosking at cs.purdue.edu
>>>>>>>>>> West Lafayette, IN 47907-2066 | http://www.cs.purdue.edu/ 
>>>>>>>>>> ~hosking
>>>>>>>>>>   _--_|\
>>>>>>>>>>  /      \
>>>>>>>>>>  \_.--._/    )
>>>>>>>>>>        v    /
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Antony Hosking                | Associate Professor
>>>>>>> Dept of Computer Sciences     | Office: (765) 494-6001
>>>>>>> Purdue University             | Mobile: (765) 427-5484
>>>>>>> 250 N. University Street      | hosking at cs.purdue.edu
>>>>>>> West Lafayette, IN 47907-2066 | http://www.cs.purdue.edu/ 
>>>>>>> ~hosking
>>>>>>>   _--_|\
>>>>>>>  /      \
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Antony Hosking                | Associate Professor
>>>>> Dept of Computer Sciences     | Office: (765) 494-6001
>>>>> Purdue University             | Mobile: (765) 427-5484
>>>>> 250 N. University Street      | hosking at cs.purdue.edu
>>>>> West Lafayette, IN 47907-2066 | http://www.cs.purdue.edu/~hosking
>>>>>   _--_|\
>>>>>  /      \
>>>>>  \_.--._/    )
>>>>>        v    /
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Antony Hosking                | Associate Professor
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>>> Purdue University             | Mobile: (765) 427-5484
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>>
>
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