[M3devel] INSTALL_ROOT and PKG_USE in cm3.cfg

Fri Jan 25 11:38:17 CET 2008

I'm not sure about this MACOSX business.

This is what I see when I log in to my Mac:

(94)rover:~>ssh -Y lapdog
Last login: Tue Jan 22 00:33:21 2008 from rover
Welcome to Darwin!
[lapdog:~] mika% uname -a
Darwin lapdog 8.11.0 Darwin Kernel Version 8.11.0: Wed Oct 10 18:26:00 PDT 2007; root:xnu-792.24.17~1/RELEASE_PPC Power Macintosh powerpc
[lapdog:~] mika% 

Jay writes:
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>ok, but independent of what it's actual dependencies are...how many people =
>run Darwin? How many people run Mac OS X? How many people have heard of Dar=
>win (not Charles)? How many people have heard of Mac OS X? Even among the u=
>nusual people who might read anything related to Modula-3 and own a Macinto=
>sh running Mac OS X? I know it's not a popularity contest but.. NT386 shoul=
>d be called Windows. The name "NT" will probably gradually fade into obscur=
>ity and the name "Windows" will live on much longe. Posix and Unix will pro=
>bably be forgotten and people will only have heard of "Linux".
>=20
>The PPC_DARWIN port has an optional dependency on X Windows..is that availa=
>ble for plain Darwin or only with Mac OS X?
>=20
>Anyway..it's just a gut feeling I have as to what names people would look f=
>or and find less surprising.
>I was surprised by "Darwin", therefore would be.. :)
>MacX is maybe a better compromise to be shorter.
>or Macintosh for verbosity and without so many initials.. (NT386 may be sho=
>rt and typable but every letter is a syllable and I think economy of syllab=
>les is also important....(not clear if prounounced "eight" or "eighty")
>Or maybe just Mac, assuming nobody thinks there will ever be a port to pre =
>MacX, which could be called OldMac or MacClassic or Mac9 anyway if necessar=
>y.. :)
>=20
>LINUX, LINUXELF, LINUXLIBC6? Please.
>Couldn't Linux have been recycled for LINUXLIBC6?Does anyone have Linux 1.2=
> around?
>That's the version I've run the most, long ago. :)
>=20
>Anyway I don't care THAT much and I will resist suggesting any more names f=
>or any preexisting targets or criticizing them.
>They almost all stink, esp. the active ones. :)
>Are the older FreeBSD ABIs so inferior that it is worth having newer ones? =
>They didn't have pthreads back then and they do now?
>=20
> - Jay
>
>
>
>> Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 11:09:59 +0100> From: wagner at elegosoft.com> To: m3=
>devel at elegosoft.com> Subject: Re: [M3devel] INSTALL_ROOT and PKG_USE in cm3=
>.cfg> > Quoting Jay <jayk123 at hotmail.com>:> > > using this code on PPC_LINU=
>X and PPC_DARWIN (should be called > > PPC_MACOSX but oh well)> > Actually =
>I did the port on a plain DARWIN system from opendarwin.org> when this was =
>still alive. So there should be no dependency on MacOS X> extensions.> > Ol=
>af> -- > Olaf Wagner -- elego Software Solutions GmbH> Gustav-Meyer-Allee 2=
>5 / Geb=E4ude 12, 13355 Berlin, Germany> phone: +49 30 23 45 86 96 mobile: =
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><body class=3D'hmmessage'>ok, but independent of what it's actual dependenc=
>ies are...how many people run Darwin? How many people run Mac OS X? How man=
>y people have heard of Darwin (not Charles)? How many people have heard of =
>Mac OS X? Even among the unusual people who might read anything related to =
>Modula-3 and own a Macintosh running Mac OS X? I know it's not a popul=
>arity contest but.. NT386 should be called Windows. The name "NT" will prob=
>ably gradually fade into obscurity and the name "Windows" will live on much=
> longe. Posix and Unix will probably be forgotten and people will only have=
> heard of "Linux".<BR>
> <BR>
>The PPC_DARWIN port has an optional dependency on X Windows..is that availa=
>ble for plain Darwin or only with Mac OS X?<BR>
> <BR>
>Anyway..it's just a gut feeling I have as to what names people would look f=
>or and find less surprising.<BR>
>I was surprised by "Darwin", therefore would be.. :)<BR>
>MacX is maybe a better compromise to be shorter.<BR>
>or Macintosh for verbosity and without so many initials.. (NT386 may be sho=
>rt and typable but every letter is a syllable and I think economy of syllab=
>les is also important....(not clear if prounounced "eight" or "eighty")<BR>
>Or maybe just Mac, assuming nobody thinks there will ever be a port to pre =
>MacX, which could be called OldMac or MacClassic or Mac9 anyway if necessar=
>y.. :)<BR>
> <BR>
>LINUX, LINUXELF, LINUXLIBC6? Please.<BR>
>Couldn't Linux have been recycled for LINUXLIBC6?<BR>Does anyone have Linux=
> 1.2 around?<BR>
>That's the version I've run the most, long ago. :)<BR>
> <BR>
>Anyway I don't care THAT much and I will resist suggesting any more names f=
>or any preexisting targets or criticizing them.<BR>
>They almost all stink, esp. the active ones. :)<BR>
>Are the older FreeBSD ABIs so inferior that it is worth having newer ones? =
>They didn't have pthreads back then and they do now?<BR>
> <BR>
> - Jay<BR><BR><BR>
>
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>> Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 11:09:59 +0100<BR>> From: wagner at elegosoft.c=
>om<BR>> To: m3devel at elegosoft.com<BR>> Subject: Re: [M3devel] INSTALL=
>_ROOT and PKG_USE in cm3.cfg<BR>> <BR>> Quoting Jay <jayk123 at hotma=
>il.com>:<BR>> <BR>> > using this code on PPC_LINUX and PPC_DARW=
>IN (should be called <BR>> > PPC_MACOSX but oh well)<BR>> <BR>>=
> Actually I did the port on a plain DARWIN system from opendarwin.org<BR>&g=
>t; when this was still alive. So there should be no dependency on MacOS X<B=
>R>> extensions.<BR>> <BR>> Olaf<BR>> -- <BR>> Olaf Wagner --=
> elego Software Solutions GmbH<BR>> Gustav-Meyer-Allee 25 / Geb=E4ude 12=
>, 13355 Berlin, Germany<BR>> phone: +49 30 23 45 86 96 mobile: +49 177 2=
>345 869 fax: +49 30 23 45 86 95<BR>> http://www.elegosoft.com | Gesch=E4=
>ftsf=FChrer: Olaf Wagner | Sitz: Berlin<BR>> Handelregister: Amtsgericht=
> Charlottenburg HRB 77719 | USt-IdNr: DE163214194<BR>> <BR><BR><br /><hr=
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