[M3devel] INSTALL_ROOT and PKG_USE in cm3.cfg

Fri Jan 25 12:26:09 CET 2008

true..
It looks like binary releases of Darwin are no longer made and apparently there are no instructions for building it from source...though that is the source presumably from which part of MacOSX is built..

> To: jayk123 at hotmail.com> CC: m3devel at elegosoft.com> Subject: Re: [M3devel] INSTALL_ROOT and PKG_USE in cm3.cfg > Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 02:38:17 -0800> From: mika at async.caltech.edu> > I'm not sure about this MACOSX business.> > This is what I see when I log in to my Mac:> > (94)rover:~>ssh -Y lapdog> Last login: Tue Jan 22 00:33:21 2008 from rover> Welcome to Darwin!> [lapdog:~] mika% uname -a> Darwin lapdog 8.11.0 Darwin Kernel Version 8.11.0: Wed Oct 10 18:26:00 PDT 2007; root:xnu-792.24.17~1/RELEASE_PPC Power Macintosh powerpc> [lapdog:~] mika% > > > > Jay writes:> >--_587094ee-5029-41f3-88b0-f4a35ad4e834_> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"> >Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable> >> >ok, but independent of what it's actual dependencies are...how many people => >run Darwin? How many people run Mac OS X? How many people have heard of Dar=> >win (not Charles)? How many people have heard of Mac OS X? Even among the u=> >nusual people who might read anything related to Modula-3 and own a Macinto=> >sh running Mac OS X? I know it's not a popularity contest but.. NT386 shoul=> >d be called Windows. The name "NT" will probably gradually fade into obscur=> >ity and the name "Windows" will live on much longe. Posix and Unix will pro=> >bably be forgotten and people will only have heard of "Linux".> >=20> >The PPC_DARWIN port has an optional dependency on X Windows..is that availa=> >ble for plain Darwin or only with Mac OS X?> >=20> >Anyway..it's just a gut feeling I have as to what names people would look f=> >or and find less surprising.> >I was surprised by "Darwin", therefore would be.. :)> >MacX is maybe a better compromise to be shorter.> >or Macintosh for verbosity and without so many initials.. (NT386 may be sho=> >rt and typable but every letter is a syllable and I think economy of syllab=> >les is also important....(not clear if prounounced "eight" or "eighty")> >Or maybe just Mac, assuming nobody thinks there will ever be a port to pre => >MacX, which could be called OldMac or MacClassic or Mac9 anyway if necessar=> >y.. :)> >=20> >LINUX, LINUXELF, LINUXLIBC6? Please.> >Couldn't Linux have been recycled for LINUXLIBC6?Does anyone have Linux 1.2=> > around?> >That's the version I've run the most, long ago. :)> >=20> >Anyway I don't care THAT much and I will resist suggesting any more names f=> >or any preexisting targets or criticizing them.> >They almost all stink, esp. the active ones. :)> >Are the older FreeBSD ABIs so inferior that it is worth having newer ones? => >They didn't have pthreads back then and they do now?> >=20> > - Jay> >> >> >> >> Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 11:09:59 +0100> From: wagner at elegosoft.com> To: m3=> >devel at elegosoft.com> Subject: Re: [M3devel] INSTALL_ROOT and PKG_USE in cm3=> >.cfg> > Quoting Jay <jayk123 at hotmail.com>:> > > using this code on PPC_LINU=> >X and PPC_DARWIN (should be called > > PPC_MACOSX but oh well)> > Actually => >I did the port on a plain DARWIN system from opendarwin.org> when this was => >still alive. So there should be no dependency on MacOS X> extensions.> > Ol=> >af> -- > Olaf Wagner -- elego Software Solutions GmbH> Gustav-Meyer-Allee 2=> >5 / Geb=E4ude 12, 13355 Berlin, Germany> phone: +49 30 23 45 86 96 mobile: => >+49 177 2345 869 fax: +49 30 23 45 86 95> http://www.elegosoft.com | Gesch=> >=E4ftsf=FChrer: Olaf Wagner | Sitz: Berlin> Handelregister: Amtsgericht Cha=> >rlottenburg HRB 77719 | USt-IdNr: DE163214194>=20> >_________________________________________________________________> >Helping your favorite cause is as easy as instant messaging.=A0You IM, we g=> >ive.> >http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Home/?source=3Dtext_hotmail_join=> >> >--_587094ee-5029-41f3-88b0-f4a35ad4e834_> >Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"> >Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable> >> ><html>> ><head>> ><style>> >.hmmessage P> >{> >margin:0px;> >padding:0px> >}> >body.hmmessage> >{> >FONT-SIZE: 10pt;> >FONT-FAMILY:Tahoma> >}> ></style>> ></head>> ><body class=3D'hmmessage'>ok, but independent of what it's actual dependenc=> >ies are...how many people run Darwin? How many people run Mac OS X? How man=> >y people have heard of Darwin (not Charles)? How many people have heard of => >Mac OS X? Even among the unusual people who might read anything related to => >Modula-3 and own a Macintosh running Mac OS X? I know it's not a popul=> >arity contest but.. NT386 should be called Windows. The name "NT" will prob=> >ably gradually fade into obscurity and the name "Windows" will live on much=> > longe. Posix and Unix will probably be forgotten and people will only have=> > heard of "Linux".<BR>> > <BR>> >The PPC_DARWIN port has an optional dependency on X Windows..is that availa=> >ble for plain Darwin or only with Mac OS X?<BR>> > <BR>> >Anyway..it's just a gut feeling I have as to what names people would look f=> >or and find less surprising.<BR>> >I was surprised by "Darwin", therefore would be.. :)<BR>> >MacX is maybe a better compromise to be shorter.<BR>> >or Macintosh for verbosity and without so many initials.. (NT386 may be sho=> >rt and typable but every letter is a syllable and I think economy of syllab=> >les is also important....(not clear if prounounced "eight" or "eighty")<BR>> >Or maybe just Mac, assuming nobody thinks there will ever be a port to pre => >MacX, which could be called OldMac or MacClassic or Mac9 anyway if necessar=> >y.. :)<BR>> > <BR>> >LINUX, LINUXELF, LINUXLIBC6? Please.<BR>> >Couldn't Linux have been recycled for LINUXLIBC6?<BR>Does anyone have Linux=> > 1.2 around?<BR>> >That's the version I've run the most, long ago. :)<BR>> > <BR>> >Anyway I don't care THAT much and I will resist suggesting any more names f=> >or any preexisting targets or criticizing them.<BR>> >They almost all stink, esp. the active ones. :)<BR>> >Are the older FreeBSD ABIs so inferior that it is worth having newer ones? => >They didn't have pthreads back then and they do now?<BR>> > <BR>> > - Jay<BR><BR><BR>> >> ><HR id=3DstopSpelling>> ><BR>> >> Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 11:09:59 +0100<BR>> From: wagner at elegosoft.c=> >om<BR>> To: m3devel at elegosoft.com<BR>> Subject: Re: [M3devel] INSTALL=> >_ROOT and PKG_USE in cm3.cfg<BR>> <BR>> Quoting Jay <jayk123 at hotma=> >il.com>:<BR>> <BR>> > using this code on PPC_LINUX and PPC_DARW=> >IN (should be called <BR>> > PPC_MACOSX but oh well)<BR>> <BR>>=> > Actually I did the port on a plain DARWIN system from opendarwin.org<BR>&g=> >t; when this was still alive. So there should be no dependency on MacOS X<B=> >R>> extensions.<BR>> <BR>> Olaf<BR>> -- <BR>> Olaf Wagner --=> > elego Software Solutions GmbH<BR>> Gustav-Meyer-Allee 25 / Geb=E4ude 12=> >, 13355 Berlin, Germany<BR>> phone: +49 30 23 45 86 96 mobile: +49 177 2=> >345 869 fax: +49 30 23 45 86 95<BR>> http://www.elegosoft.com | Gesch=E4=> >ftsf=FChrer: Olaf Wagner | Sitz: Berlin<BR>> Handelregister: Amtsgericht=> > Charlottenburg HRB 77719 | USt-IdNr: DE163214194<BR>> <BR><BR><br /><hr=> > />Helping your favorite cause is as easy as instant messaging.=A0You IM, w=> >e give. <a href=3D'http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Home/?source=3Dtext_hotm=> >ail_join' target=3D'_new'>Learn more.</a></body>> ></html>=> >> >--_587094ee-5029-41f3-88b0-f4a35ad4e834_--
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