[M3devel] INSTALL_ROOT and PKG_USE in cm3.cfg

Fri Jan 25 15:40:00 CET 2008

Precisely!

On Jan 25, 2008, at 5:38 AM, Mika Nystrom wrote:

> I'm not sure about this MACOSX business.
>
> This is what I see when I log in to my Mac:
>
> (94)rover:~>ssh -Y lapdog
> Last login: Tue Jan 22 00:33:21 2008 from rover
> Welcome to Darwin!
> [lapdog:~] mika% uname -a
> Darwin lapdog 8.11.0 Darwin Kernel Version 8.11.0: Wed Oct 10  
> 18:26:00 PDT 2007; root:xnu-792.24.17~1/RELEASE_PPC Power Macintosh  
> powerpc
> [lapdog:~] mika%
>
>
>
> Jay writes:
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>> ok, but independent of what it's actual dependencies are...how  
>> many people =
>> run Darwin? How many people run Mac OS X? How many people have  
>> heard of Dar=
>> win (not Charles)? How many people have heard of Mac OS X? Even  
>> among the u=
>> nusual people who might read anything related to Modula-3 and own  
>> a Macinto=
>> sh running Mac OS X? I know it's not a popularity contest but..  
>> NT386 shoul=
>> d be called Windows. The name "NT" will probably gradually fade  
>> into obscur=
>> ity and the name "Windows" will live on much longe. Posix and Unix  
>> will pro=
>> bably be forgotten and people will only have heard of "Linux".
>> =20
>> The PPC_DARWIN port has an optional dependency on X Windows..is  
>> that availa=
>> ble for plain Darwin or only with Mac OS X?
>> =20
>> Anyway..it's just a gut feeling I have as to what names people  
>> would look f=
>> or and find less surprising.
>> I was surprised by "Darwin", therefore would be.. :)
>> MacX is maybe a better compromise to be shorter.
>> or Macintosh for verbosity and without so many initials.. (NT386  
>> may be sho=
>> rt and typable but every letter is a syllable and I think economy  
>> of syllab=
>> les is also important....(not clear if prounounced "eight" or  
>> "eighty")
>> Or maybe just Mac, assuming nobody thinks there will ever be a  
>> port to pre =
>> MacX, which could be called OldMac or MacClassic or Mac9 anyway if  
>> necessar=
>> y.. :)
>> =20
>> LINUX, LINUXELF, LINUXLIBC6? Please.
>> Couldn't Linux have been recycled for LINUXLIBC6?Does anyone have  
>> Linux 1.2=
>> around?
>> That's the version I've run the most, long ago. :)
>> =20
>> Anyway I don't care THAT much and I will resist suggesting any  
>> more names f=
>> or any preexisting targets or criticizing them.
>> They almost all stink, esp. the active ones. :)
>> Are the older FreeBSD ABIs so inferior that it is worth having  
>> newer ones? =
>> They didn't have pthreads back then and they do now?
>> =20
>> - Jay
>>
>>
>>
>>> Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 11:09:59 +0100> From:  
>>> wagner at elegosoft.com> To: m3=
>> devel at elegosoft.com> Subject: Re: [M3devel] INSTALL_ROOT and  
>> PKG_USE in cm3=
>> .cfg> > Quoting Jay <jayk123 at hotmail.com>:> > > using this code on  
>> PPC_LINU=
>> X and PPC_DARWIN (should be called > > PPC_MACOSX but oh well)> >  
>> Actually =
>> I did the port on a plain DARWIN system from opendarwin.org> when  
>> this was =
>> still alive. So there should be no dependency on MacOS X>  
>> extensions.> > Ol=
>> af> -- > Olaf Wagner -- elego Software Solutions GmbH> Gustav- 
>> Meyer-Allee 2=
>> 5 / Geb=E4ude 12, 13355 Berlin, Germany> phone: +49 30 23 45 86 96  
>> mobile: =
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>> <body class=3D'hmmessage'>ok, but independent of what it's actual  
>> dependenc=
>> ies are...how many people run Darwin? How many people run Mac OS  
>> X? How man=
>> y people have heard of Darwin (not Charles)? How many people have  
>> heard of =
>> Mac OS X? Even among the unusual people who might read anything  
>> related to =
>> Modula-3 and own a Macintosh running Mac OS X? I know it's  
>> not a popul=
>> arity contest but.. NT386 should be called Windows. The name "NT"  
>> will prob=
>> ably gradually fade into obscurity and the name "Windows" will  
>> live on much=
>> longe. Posix and Unix will probably be forgotten and people will  
>> only have=
>> heard of "Linux".<BR>
>>  <BR>
>> The PPC_DARWIN port has an optional dependency on X Windows..is  
>> that availa=
>> ble for plain Darwin or only with Mac OS X?<BR>
>>  <BR>
>> Anyway..it's just a gut feeling I have as to what names people  
>> would look f=
>> or and find less surprising.<BR>
>> I was surprised by "Darwin", therefore would be.. :)<BR>
>> MacX is maybe a better compromise to be shorter.<BR>
>> or Macintosh for verbosity and without so many initials.. (NT386  
>> may be sho=
>> rt and typable but every letter is a syllable and I think economy  
>> of syllab=
>> les is also important....(not clear if prounounced "eight" or  
>> "eighty")<BR>
>> Or maybe just Mac, assuming nobody thinks there will ever be a  
>> port to pre =
>> MacX, which could be called OldMac or MacClassic or Mac9 anyway if  
>> necessar=
>> y.. :)<BR>
>>  <BR>
>> LINUX, LINUXELF, LINUXLIBC6? Please.<BR>
>> Couldn't Linux have been recycled for LINUXLIBC6?<BR>Does anyone  
>> have Linux=
>> 1.2 around?<BR>
>> That's the version I've run the most, long ago. :)<BR>
>>  <BR>
>> Anyway I don't care THAT much and I will resist suggesting any  
>> more names f=
>> or any preexisting targets or criticizing them.<BR>
>> They almost all stink, esp. the active ones. :)<BR>
>> Are the older FreeBSD ABIs so inferior that it is worth having  
>> newer ones? =
>> They didn't have pthreads back then and they do now?<BR>
>>  <BR>
>>  - Jay<BR><BR><BR>
>>
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>> > Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 11:09:59 +0100<BR>> From:  
>> wagner at elegosoft.c=
>> om<BR>> To: m3devel at elegosoft.com<BR>> Subject: Re:  
>> [M3devel] INSTALL=
>> _ROOT and PKG_USE in cm3.cfg<BR>> <BR>> Quoting Jay  
>> <jayk123 at hotma=
>> il.com>:<BR>> <BR>> > using this code on PPC_LINUX and  
>> PPC_DARW=
>> IN (should be called <BR>> > PPC_MACOSX but oh well)<BR>>  
>> <BR>>=
>> Actually I did the port on a plain DARWIN system from  
>> opendarwin.org<BR>&g=
>> t; when this was still alive. So there should be no dependency on  
>> MacOS X<B=
>> R>> extensions.<BR>> <BR>> Olaf<BR>> -- <BR>> Olaf  
>> Wagner --=
>> elego Software Solutions GmbH<BR>> Gustav-Meyer-Allee 25 /  
>> Geb=E4ude 12=
>> , 13355 Berlin, Germany<BR>> phone: +49 30 23 45 86 96 mobile:  
>> +49 177 2=
>> 345 869 fax: +49 30 23 45 86 95<BR>> http://www.elegosoft.com |  
>> Gesch=E4=
>> ftsf=FChrer: Olaf Wagner | Sitz: Berlin<BR>> Handelregister:  
>> Amtsgericht=
>> Charlottenburg HRB 77719 | USt-IdNr: DE163214194<BR>>  
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