[M3devel] INSTALL_ROOT and PKG_USE in cm3.cfg
Tony Hosking
hosking at cs.purdue.edu
Fri Jan 25 15:49:53 CET 2008
Latest Darwin source is still at http://www.opensource.apple.com/
darwinsource/
On Jan 25, 2008, at 9:40 AM, Tony Hosking wrote:
> Precisely!
>
> On Jan 25, 2008, at 5:38 AM, Mika Nystrom wrote:
>
>> I'm not sure about this MACOSX business.
>>
>> This is what I see when I log in to my Mac:
>>
>> (94)rover:~>ssh -Y lapdog
>> Last login: Tue Jan 22 00:33:21 2008 from rover
>> Welcome to Darwin!
>> [lapdog:~] mika% uname -a
>> Darwin lapdog 8.11.0 Darwin Kernel Version 8.11.0: Wed Oct 10
>> 18:26:00 PDT 2007; root:xnu-792.24.17~1/RELEASE_PPC Power
>> Macintosh powerpc
>> [lapdog:~] mika%
>>
>>
>>
>> Jay writes:
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>>> ok, but independent of what it's actual dependencies are...how
>>> many people =
>>> run Darwin? How many people run Mac OS X? How many people have
>>> heard of Dar=
>>> win (not Charles)? How many people have heard of Mac OS X? Even
>>> among the u=
>>> nusual people who might read anything related to Modula-3 and own
>>> a Macinto=
>>> sh running Mac OS X? I know it's not a popularity contest but..
>>> NT386 shoul=
>>> d be called Windows. The name "NT" will probably gradually fade
>>> into obscur=
>>> ity and the name "Windows" will live on much longe. Posix and
>>> Unix will pro=
>>> bably be forgotten and people will only have heard of "Linux".
>>> =20
>>> The PPC_DARWIN port has an optional dependency on X Windows..is
>>> that availa=
>>> ble for plain Darwin or only with Mac OS X?
>>> =20
>>> Anyway..it's just a gut feeling I have as to what names people
>>> would look f=
>>> or and find less surprising.
>>> I was surprised by "Darwin", therefore would be.. :)
>>> MacX is maybe a better compromise to be shorter.
>>> or Macintosh for verbosity and without so many initials.. (NT386
>>> may be sho=
>>> rt and typable but every letter is a syllable and I think economy
>>> of syllab=
>>> les is also important....(not clear if prounounced "eight" or
>>> "eighty")
>>> Or maybe just Mac, assuming nobody thinks there will ever be a
>>> port to pre =
>>> MacX, which could be called OldMac or MacClassic or Mac9 anyway
>>> if necessar=
>>> y.. :)
>>> =20
>>> LINUX, LINUXELF, LINUXLIBC6? Please.
>>> Couldn't Linux have been recycled for LINUXLIBC6?Does anyone have
>>> Linux 1.2=
>>> around?
>>> That's the version I've run the most, long ago. :)
>>> =20
>>> Anyway I don't care THAT much and I will resist suggesting any
>>> more names f=
>>> or any preexisting targets or criticizing them.
>>> They almost all stink, esp. the active ones. :)
>>> Are the older FreeBSD ABIs so inferior that it is worth having
>>> newer ones? =
>>> They didn't have pthreads back then and they do now?
>>> =20
>>> - Jay
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 11:09:59 +0100> From:
>>>> wagner at elegosoft.com> To: m3=
>>> devel at elegosoft.com> Subject: Re: [M3devel] INSTALL_ROOT and
>>> PKG_USE in cm3=
>>> .cfg> > Quoting Jay <jayk123 at hotmail.com>:> > > using this code
>>> on PPC_LINU=
>>> X and PPC_DARWIN (should be called > > PPC_MACOSX but oh well)> >
>>> Actually =
>>> I did the port on a plain DARWIN system from opendarwin.org> when
>>> this was =
>>> still alive. So there should be no dependency on MacOS X>
>>> extensions.> > Ol=
>>> af> -- > Olaf Wagner -- elego Software Solutions GmbH> Gustav-
>>> Meyer-Allee 2=
>>> 5 / Geb=E4ude 12, 13355 Berlin, Germany> phone: +49 30 23 45 86
>>> 96 mobile: =
>>> +49 177 2345 869 fax: +49 30 23 45 86 95> http://
>>> www.elegosoft.com | Gesch=
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>>> <body class=3D'hmmessage'>ok, but independent of what it's actual
>>> dependenc=
>>> ies are...how many people run Darwin? How many people run Mac OS
>>> X? How man=
>>> y people have heard of Darwin (not Charles)? How many people have
>>> heard of =
>>> Mac OS X? Even among the unusual people who might read anything
>>> related to =
>>> Modula-3 and own a Macintosh running Mac OS X? I know it's
>>> not a popul=
>>> arity contest but.. NT386 should be called Windows. The name "NT"
>>> will prob=
>>> ably gradually fade into obscurity and the name "Windows" will
>>> live on much=
>>> longe. Posix and Unix will probably be forgotten and people will
>>> only have=
>>> heard of "Linux".<BR>
>>> <BR>
>>> The PPC_DARWIN port has an optional dependency on X Windows..is
>>> that availa=
>>> ble for plain Darwin or only with Mac OS X?<BR>
>>> <BR>
>>> Anyway..it's just a gut feeling I have as to what names people
>>> would look f=
>>> or and find less surprising.<BR>
>>> I was surprised by "Darwin", therefore would be.. :)<BR>
>>> MacX is maybe a better compromise to be shorter.<BR>
>>> or Macintosh for verbosity and without so many initials.. (NT386
>>> may be sho=
>>> rt and typable but every letter is a syllable and I think economy
>>> of syllab=
>>> les is also important....(not clear if prounounced "eight" or
>>> "eighty")<BR>
>>> Or maybe just Mac, assuming nobody thinks there will ever be a
>>> port to pre =
>>> MacX, which could be called OldMac or MacClassic or Mac9 anyway
>>> if necessar=
>>> y.. :)<BR>
>>> <BR>
>>> LINUX, LINUXELF, LINUXLIBC6? Please.<BR>
>>> Couldn't Linux have been recycled for LINUXLIBC6?<BR>Does anyone
>>> have Linux=
>>> 1.2 around?<BR>
>>> That's the version I've run the most, long ago. :)<BR>
>>> <BR>
>>> Anyway I don't care THAT much and I will resist suggesting any
>>> more names f=
>>> or any preexisting targets or criticizing them.<BR>
>>> They almost all stink, esp. the active ones. :)<BR>
>>> Are the older FreeBSD ABIs so inferior that it is worth having
>>> newer ones? =
>>> They didn't have pthreads back then and they do now?<BR>
>>> <BR>
>>> - Jay<BR><BR><BR>
>>>
>>> <HR id=3DstopSpelling>
>>> <BR>
>>> > Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 11:09:59 +0100<BR>> From:
>>> wagner at elegosoft.c=
>>> om<BR>> To: m3devel at elegosoft.com<BR>> Subject: Re:
>>> [M3devel] INSTALL=
>>> _ROOT and PKG_USE in cm3.cfg<BR>> <BR>> Quoting Jay
>>> <jayk123 at hotma=
>>> il.com>:<BR>> <BR>> > using this code on PPC_LINUX
>>> and PPC_DARW=
>>> IN (should be called <BR>> > PPC_MACOSX but oh well)
>>> <BR>> <BR>>=
>>> Actually I did the port on a plain DARWIN system from
>>> opendarwin.org<BR>&g=
>>> t; when this was still alive. So there should be no dependency on
>>> MacOS X<B=
>>> R>> extensions.<BR>> <BR>> Olaf<BR>> -- <BR>> Olaf
>>> Wagner --=
>>> elego Software Solutions GmbH<BR>> Gustav-Meyer-Allee 25 /
>>> Geb=E4ude 12=
>>> , 13355 Berlin, Germany<BR>> phone: +49 30 23 45 86 96 mobile:
>>> +49 177 2=
>>> 345 869 fax: +49 30 23 45 86 95<BR>> http://www.elegosoft.com
>>> | Gesch=E4=
>>> ftsf=FChrer: Olaf Wagner | Sitz: Berlin<BR>> Handelregister:
>>> Amtsgericht=
>>> Charlottenburg HRB 77719 | USt-IdNr: DE163214194<BR>>
>>> <BR><BR><br /><hr=
>>> />Helping your favorite cause is as easy as instant
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