[M3devel] M3devel Digest, Vol 56, Issue 29

Tue Jun 28 01:31:09 CEST 2011

in an interesting conversation with a friend of mine, we compared GO and
Modula-3
I said that the main difference, is that the GO people want their language
used by other people, but the Modula-3 people seemed too busy to try to grow
the community, by providing an easy to use installer on windows.

this lead me to think hard, because, I'm not sure of what efforts have been
made, to grow the community.

is anybody in this list actively working on this?

is having a larger modula3 community, desirable?

2011/6/25 <m3devel-request at elegosoft.com>

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>   1. hardware/software sales.. AlphaServer DS10L, Tru64 (Jay K)
>   2. Re: hardware/software sales.. AlphaServer DS10L, Tru64
>      (Daniel Alejandro Benavides D.)
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> Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 20:55:50 +0000
> From: Jay K <jay.krell at cornell.edu>
> Subject: [M3devel] hardware/software sales.. AlphaServer DS10L, Tru64
> To: m3devel <m3devel at elegosoft.com>
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> sorry if this is too repititive.
>
>
> I have two AlphaServer DS10Ls.
> I believe they both work.
> They have CPU and memory.
> And maybe hard drive.
>  one had a problem with the hard drive I think and I was/am mid-replacing
> it.
> And maybe optical drive -- one has it. I was mid-moving it to other to
> install from CD.
>
>
>
> They can run any of: Linux, NetBSD, OpenBSD, FreeBSD, VMS, Tru64, Windows
> (NT 4.0).
>
>
> I can throw in one complete copy of Tru64 5.1b. Box. Manuals. CDs.
>
> Cost is that we split shipping to US.
>
> And ideally you let me ssh in, get Modula-3 up-and-running, maybe leave it
> as Hudson node.
>  I.e. you provide space and electricity. At least temporarily. Space,
> really.
>
>
> We already got Tru64 (re)working within the past year. On older versions.
> NT 4.0 is too much work, until/unless we have a C backend. And then it
> would be interesting, really. I can provide/acquire NT 4.0/Alpha.
> VMS is almost done. And otherwise available to me..but seemingly very slow.
> I'd like to give it another chance on another machine.
> The others should all be easy and I would bother with doing them.
>  Hudson wouldn't likely be viable on OpenBSD, NetBSD, FreeBSD.
>  Hudson should be easily viable on Linux (Debian 5.0; current Gentoo) and
> maybe others (VMS? Tru64?).
>
> I can also provide for half shipping to USA:
>  Mac laptop for PPC_LINUX
>  PC laptops for I386_LINUX, I386_OPENBSD.
>
>
> But I might set those back up.
>
>
>  - Jay
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> Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2011 02:15:02 +0100 (BST)
> From: "Daniel Alejandro Benavides D." <dabenavidesd at yahoo.es>
> Subject: Re: [M3devel] hardware/software sales.. AlphaServer DS10L,
>        Tru64
> To: m3devel <m3devel at elegosoft.com>, Jay K <jay.krell at cornell.edu>
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> Hi all:
> I know it may sound odd, but how about installing the full working M3
> system on every one of it (thus you kind of sell the as a CM3 server of its
> own win*/*ix flavor) , does someone can create such a server (through
> potential SPIN OS Sphinix)? I mean code generate for every platform on each
> row, or if you have multiple OS then built a matrix hw x OS
>
> OS??????? | Linux | FreeBSD | OpenBSD | Tru64 | Mac OSX | NT4.0 | HP-UX |
> AIX
> HW??????
> -----------+---------------+----------------+----------+----------------+----------+-----------+-------
> DECaxp?? o????? | ?????? o?????? |??????? o??????? | ??? o???? | ????? +? ?
> ? ? | ? ?? x ?? | ? ?? + ?? |?? +??????
> i86pc??????? o????? | ?????? o?????? | ?????? o??????? | ??? +??? | ??????
> x??????? | ???? x??? | ???? x ?? | ? +
> i86smp???? o????? |??????? o?????? | ?????? o??????? | ??? + ?? | ?????? o?
> ? ? ? |? ? ? x ?? | ?? ? x ?? |?? + ??? Ppc ???????? o?????? |?????? o??????
> |???????? o?????? |????? +??? |?????? o??????? |????? x??? |?????? +?? |???
> o
>
>
> I myself would need some help to install any of those systems, so if you
> could build? the system in itself would be wonderful. Best than that perhaps
> with alternate multiBoot and/or in original conditions.
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> --- El vie, 24/6/11, Jay K <jay.krell at cornell.edu> escribi?:
>
> De: Jay K <jay.krell at cornell.edu>
> Asunto: [M3devel] hardware/software sales.. AlphaServer DS10L, Tru64
> Para: "m3devel" <m3devel at elegosoft.com>
> Fecha: viernes, 24 de junio, 2011 15:55
>
>
>
>
>
> sorry if this is too repititive.
>
>
> I have two AlphaServer DS10Ls.
> I believe they both work.
> They have CPU and memory.
> And maybe hard drive.
> ? one had a problem with the hard drive I think and I was/am mid-replacing
> it.
> And maybe optical drive -- one has it. I was mid-moving it to other to
> install from CD.
>
>
>
> They can run any of: Linux, NetBSD, OpenBSD, FreeBSD, VMS, Tru64, Windows
> (NT 4.0).
>
>
> I can throw in one complete copy of Tru64 5.1b. Box. Manuals. CDs.
>
> Cost is that we split shipping to US.
>
> And ideally you let me ssh in, get Modula-3 up-and-running, maybe leave it
> as Hudson node.
> ? I.e. you provide space and electricity. At least temporarily. Space,
> really.
>
>
> We already got Tru64 (re)working within the past year. On older versions.
> NT 4.0 is too much work, until/unless we have a C backend. And then it
> would be interesting, really. I can provide/acquire NT 4.0/Alpha.
> VMS is almost done. And otherwise available to me..but seemingly very slow.
> I'd like to give it another chance on another machine.
> The others should all be easy and I would bother with doing them.
> ? Hudson wouldn't likely be viable on OpenBSD, NetBSD, FreeBSD.
> ? Hudson should be easily viable on Linux (Debian 5.0; current Gentoo) and
> maybe others (VMS? Tru64?).
>
> I can also provide for half shipping to USA:
> ?Mac laptop for PPC_LINUX
> ?PC laptops for I386_LINUX, I386_OPENBSD.
>
>
> But I might set those back up.
>
>
> ?- Jay
>
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