[M3devel] The so called "The Emerging JavaScript Revolution" CS jokes

[Daniel Alejandro Benavides D.]

HI all:
Even you can go even earlier than that to see what was the market around 80s:
ftp://ftp.apple.asimov.net/pub/apple_II/documentation/misc/A2_DOCS_GENIELAMP1.pdf

Like ~84 or so, it is claimed Modula-3 was working in Mainframes and Minicomputers, the long time friend had access in a Phillips Professional visit in Netherlands to such systems, where he learned Unix of first hand, this theory would explain as in his country (COL) we didn't have much notice of this things more than in some Calculus Centers Mainframes, sometimes managed by foreign or isolated workers and later all computing directly jumped into Micros in Computer Labs, but I would like to know what happened in other LA countries, or overseas and in US, that would explain us better the theory of the "missing minis" here and "lack" of user-base.
Thanks in advance


--- El jue, 8/9/11, Daniel Alejandro Benavides D. <dabenavidesd at yahoo.es> escribió:

De: Daniel Alejandro Benavides D. <dabenavidesd at yahoo.es>
Asunto: Re: [M3devel] The so called "The Emerging JavaScript Revolution" CS jokes
Para: "felipe valdez" <felipevaldez at gmail.com>
CC: m3devel at elegosoft.com
Fecha: jueves, 8 de septiembre, 2011 18:13

Hi all:
I think if you admit something is wrong here you quickly realize you don't don't even need a full language to make a revolution with it, you just need to see what went wrong and when, and if you look that then, you see that SUN was working hard Modula-3 until it was closed down DEC-SRC, later the consequences of one thing became everything else in this terms (e.g Obliq JavaScript). If not why Obliq ç-calculus is used to try to fix JavaScript
Can you see and can you imagine where we would be if the chain of events could and would be different, I think a crisis you see coming when something went wrong, can you realize then (I don't know, someones did like the M3 old friend I always talk about), it was Java the problem (I don't think so, but ignorance and disbelief I do think, that's when things went wrong in CS, now I don't want to talk about AI in
 general, others know that better than me).
Check this for other applications of type systems:
http://www.laputan.org/pub/washington/postscript/hayes.ps

The reason you should understand is because in the time the machines were another history, anything like today's big and useless in terms of theoretical needs:
https://lists.iai.uni-bonn.de/pipermail/swi-prolog/2010/003065.html


Thanks in advance

--- El jue, 8/9/11, felipe valdez <felipevaldez at gmail.com> escribió:

De: felipe valdez <felipevaldez at gmail.com>
Asunto: Re: [M3devel] The so called "The Emerging JavaScript Revolution" CS jokes
Para: "Daniel Alejandro Benavides D." <dabenavidesd at yahoo.es>
CC: m3devel at elegosoft.com
Fecha: jueves, 8 de septiembre, 2011 12:05

Daniel, does high reputation and low userbase imply academic-only use?

is this something desirable?


is change desirable?




On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 4:12 PM, Daniel Alejandro Benavides D. <dabenavidesd at yahoo.es> wrote:


Hi all:

Again just to say, Modula-3 reputation must be somewhere higher, it's enough for us but for others as well high if I may say so.

Thanks in advance



--- El mar, 6/9/11, Daniel Alejandro Benavides D. <dabenavidesd at yahoo.es> escribió:



> De: Daniel Alejandro Benavides D. <dabenavidesd at yahoo.es>

> Asunto: [M3devel] The so called "The Emerging JavaScript Revolution" CS jokes

> Para: m3devel at elegosoft.com

> Fecha: martes, 6 de septiembre, 2011 15:57

> Hi all:

> I can't criticize just if of my own criteria I can't stand

> an affirmation, but sometimes people make jokes that sadly

> became truth, see:

>

> http://links.techwebnewsletters.com/servlet/MailView?ms=MzcwMDk2MjMS1&r=MjIxNTU4ODA2MQS2&j=MTExMzQzNzMxS0&mt=1&rt=0



>

> Well, if we are talking revolution, we can't just omit the

> software crisis, I don't know Rodney what's about his

> article, but just if matters to them, the idea is trying to

> "safe" JavaScript is based on a Modula-3 based program.

> By the way I found how we can avoid the sources of

> unsoundness in it (same source for ESC technology also for

> Java...)

> http://www.google.com/patents?id=OLcLAAAAEBAJ

>

> Perhaps we could boost this JavaScript revolution with a

> Modula-3 based proving engine, don't you think?

>

> In other affairs, if one of you have any interest of comp

> newsgroups, we could make some sort of subgroup for this

> interests, so we don't botter unnecessarily here?

>

> Thanks in advance

>




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