[M3devel] Think we need a new release. C target

[Rodney M. Bates]

On 02/17/2012 05:29 AM, Dragiša Durić wrote:
> To port to JVM or Javascript, you have to throw through the window a lot of what Modula-3 is. You will get, in best case, part of Modula-3.
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Once, I was peripherally involved in a project that was planning to translate
Ada to JVM code.  After a bit of design work, they quickly abandoned that idea.

Java reflects the popular procrustean philosophy that object-oriented constructs
should be almost the only tool in your box.  As a result, the set of non-heap-allocated
types is highly impoverished, with no programmer-defined type constructors at all.
This is reflected in the JVM.  It doesn't have the constructs to support the richer
type system of Ada or Modula-3.  At the very least, some other bytecode design
would be needed.

> On the other side, targeting to C (or C++) and losing object model from sight (while debugging), ie losing or distorting, also looks like an horrible side effect to me.
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> It looks like the best direction to concentrate effort is current GCC (a lot of platforms) and LLVM ((almost) new kid on the block with many good promises). The best thing about LLVM target is - IM is standardized and fully documented. Since we all know what pain is tagging along behind GCC IM (thanks to RMS losing licensing battle to SRC), LLVM looks like a promise of future freedom for Modula-3. Maye some day we will not be traumatized by every major (and most minor) GCC releases.
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> BTW, freepascal has it's own backend infrastructure. Maybe worth a try.
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> dd
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> On Feb 15, 2012, at 8:57 PM, Daniel Alejandro Benavides D. wrote:
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>> Hi all:
>> The point is whether we want to migrate our current RT to C or JavaScript, my question is why not (Java/) JVM or Obliq.
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